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Official NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by codell, Apr 24, 2004.

  1. RIET

    RIET Member

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    1. Trading up is not always bad. However, normally you trade up for an impact player early in the 1st round. Most "experts" had him rated somewhere in the low 1st to early 2nd round which is exactly where he went. It's not a "value" pick and very few people rated him an "impact player" (if they did, he wouldnt have lasted until 27th). If you're going to give up that many picks, you need to get impact. It's always a great strategy if you're only 1 key player away (which the Texans are not) and usually it's at the top of the draft board, not late 1st round - which is exactly what Beatherd did year after year.

    2. Our defensive line was brutal which is exactly why we needed those picks. It's laughable for people to minimize the worth of a 3rd and 4th round pick and then proclaim CC as a genius for spending 11 months of energy converting a 6th to a 3rd in the Drew Henson trade. Funny how we were so excited for a 3rd rounder in 2005 to get a pick he just pissed away.

    3. This was a deep draft in the early mid rounds. Some of those players couldve really helped this team.

    Injuries are a major part of football and depth, even on good teams, is essential.

    4. If you review what CC had done so far, he would would grade out as average. Other than Dominick Davis, there have been very few upside surprises (including some busts) despite the plethora of extra picks.
     
  2. esse

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    Oh yeah. 88, huhhuh cool!

    aww, Sherman Williams! LOL!:D
     
  3. 4chuckie

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    For teh 1st time in 3 years I am disappointed with the Cowboy's draft. Steven Jackson may not be a franchise back but is is by far superior to Julius Jones. In the end the trade was made to pick up the extra second and with the hope Buffalo has a bad year next year. Even in the 2nd round I think Greg Jones (picked at 55 after th3 other 2nd round pick) may have been a better pick than Julius.
    Jacob Rogers may become a decent player. We definetely need a RT to compete with Vollers and Rogers will likley be the starting RT.
    Stephen Peterman was not rated very high by a lot of people. I suppose he may be taking over for Larry Allen if Larry is traded or at least with depth.

    But if it was me (I was the GM) I would have done this:
    Fist round (pick 22): Steven Jackson
    2nd round (pick 52): Jacob Roges
    3rd Round (pick 83): Darrion Scott (DE/DT) Ohio State

    I would rather add more depth at d-line than on the o-line.

    As for what to look for today I think the boys need to look at D-line, CB who an help on special teams, LB for depth who can play special teams.
     
  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    As a Titans fan I am pretty happy with their draft. They were able to trade out of the 1st round to get a guy in Ben Troupe they had a 1st round grade on. Saves them money there as well. Additionally in trading out of the first round they got those picks from the Texans. The Titans were also able to fill their D-Line holes with guys like Odom and Starks; both of whom had been projected to be 1st round picks in many mock drafts. In fact one could look at it like the Titans got 3 1st round picks and picked none of them in the 1st round. That's called value!

    The Titans have a messed up cap situation and aren't big free agent spenders but one thing they DO do well is draft people. And with 8 selections today in the draft I am sure they will add more depth to the team.

    I am happy so far with the Titans draft. Thanks to the Texans for that trade!


    Aside from the Titans, I really liked what Detroit did. They were able to trade down one slot (getting a 2nd rounder) and STILL get their guy in Roy Williams (to pair with Charles Rogers of last year). Then they use one of their 2nd round picks to trade UP to get Kevin Jones to fill a BIG hole and RB. That is terrific drafting right there! Then they use their remaining 2nd rounder to pick Lehman who should add nice speed at LB with Boss Bailey. This team really helped themselves today!

    I also like the values the Cardinals got with Fitzgerald in the 1st, Karlos Dansby in the 2nd and Dockett in the 3rd. Solid picks there!
     
  5. esse

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    WOW, I see the Cowboys website already is selling Julius Jones #21 jersies!
    http://secure1.esportspartners.com/store-cowboys/main_detail.cfm?nObjGroupID=63&nProductID=56922

    *Will ship out Monday April24th!
    Damn that was fast!:)
     
  6. Rockets34Legend

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    For anyone who doesn't know, the Texans have selected:

    Rd 4, Pick 122 - Glenn Earl, safety from Notre Dame
    Rd 4, Pick 159 - ANOTHER TRADE - Pick has been traded to Jacksonville!
     
  7. Rockets34Legend

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    On ESPN, it said the trade happened on Day One, but on the Draft Cast, it had happened right then. Didn't hear about it on HoustonTexans.com or on here...but here are the details for the trade:

    Texans get: Jacksonville's fifth-round pick (No. 159), which they used to select Illinois OT Sean Bubin.

    Jaguars get: Houston's sixth-round pick (No. 175) and seventh-round pick (No. 210).
     
  8. Summer Song Giver

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    that's not right is it, it looks like you have it backwards
     
  9. mrpaige

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    I see Kevin Johnson made it out of Cleveland.

    Texans get: Jacksonville's fifth-round pick (No. 159), which they used to select Illinois OT Sean Bubin.

    Jaguars get: Houston's sixth-round pick (No. 175) and seventh-round pick (No. 210).


    That looks backwards since the #159 pick was the Texans that they got from the Titans.
     
  10. mrpaige

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    ESPN.com has it backwards.
     
  11. mrpaige

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    Vontez Duff - CB - Notre Dame

    The latest Houston Texan (pick #170).
     
  12. Rockets34Legend

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    Summer, if you read the beginning of the post, it says ESPN.
     
  13. DAROckets

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    With pick #175:

    Jammal Lord - RB - Nebraska

    Comments: Lord has excellent athletic ability, is shifty in the open field and can make defenders miss. He has a second gear in the open field and wastes little time getting upfield. He accelerates quickly and shows an explosive burst through holes. He has adequate size, runs with determination and can pick up yards after contact. He played in an option-oriented, run-heavy offense and it should make the transition to running back somewhat easier at the next level. He has good starting experience. As a quarterback, Lord lacks footwork, doesn't show a quick release and has problems making sound decisions under pressure. While he has adequate arm strength, he is one of the most inconsistent and inaccurate passers in the country and must move to running back, receiver or safety. He also has no experience taking handoffs as a running back and has below-average speed for an NFL running back. He had some fumbling problems, and durability is also a concern?(partially torn posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee as a freshman). But Lord holds school-records for total offense in a season, total offense in one game and most rushing yards by a quarterback in a season. However, he does not have the arm strength or passing skills to make it at quarterback. He has the most potential at running back because of his burst, elusiveness and speed, although he is still a risky pick because he has never played the position, and he also has had some trouble protecting the ball. Overall, Lord is a late-round or free-agent developmental prospect who is worth taking because of his athleticism, but the track record of Nebraska option quarterbacks in the NFL is not good.
     
  15. Rockets34Legend

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    Rd 4 Pick 175 - Jammal Lord (RB) - Nebraska
     
  16. Rockets34Legend

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    I hope we picked him up as a RB instead for his QB skills.
     
  17. Summer Song Giver

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    Will be interesting to see how Lord is going to be used, he played QB at Nebraska in an option style offense. I've seen him called both a RB or a SS, he does have good speed in the 40 at 4.44.
     
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    When I was reading that bio stuff, I was wondering if his (Lord) future with the Texans was at Safety.
     
  20. Baqui99

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    So the Texans are going to run the option next year? :)

    Lord will probably play some safety and special teams. He needs to work on his footwork and tackling before he sees the field as a DB. Lord is a project, which is fine with me. A better pick would've been Sloan Thomas, IMO. Maybe we can pick him up in the 7th.
     

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