**Official McGrady/Pistons 2010 Regular Season Thread**

I haven't seen any Detroit games, so I don't know how the team plays. I just get to look at the stats. Does he not have the option of taking more then 2-3 shots per game?

 

His role is to stabilize the offense and set-up the other guys and help get them to run the right offense. He's being more of a mentor out there right now.

 

dude, i've even seen some detroit games on nba tv.

this is sad, you are blindly defending him without watching him play!

come on 99er.

 

what is sad is your pathetic life that has been reduced to being a proud member of a website that you joined in 1999.

please tell me what am i defending tmac from?

 

i don't buy it. tmac is not an old guy himself that really needs to play the role of a mentor. pistons arent going anywhere and seem to have a bunch of chuckers. tmac might as well get his.

but maybe he is not capable of getting more then a couple of ppg.

 

He's not shooting that much, he's more of a floor general that tries to get the poor Pistons-offense going. Also Stuckey is only looking at his stats and doesn't help his teammates.

 

I didn't mean to lump you in with the rest of the TOFs. Have you read most of this thread? Look at all the posts that are blaming Adelman and Morey for how things ended here in Houston. Just look at a few posts above the one you quoted me on as an example.

 

Seriously? That's why you see a lot of negative posts about T-Mac is because T-Mac fans like to make ridiculous claims like that. The positive about T-Mac that I've seen this year is that he has accepted that he's not going to more than a role player at this point in his career.

 

he can. but when he comes in, he plays with bynum, BGg, and charlie. he's their playmaker b/c none of them want to pass. hence his assist rate is pretty good for the amount of touches he gets.

he can jack it up all he wants, but that's not how he'll get minutes. he's gettin minutes b/c he's smart on offense and playing defense.

trust me, he is capable of getting 12 points a game right now if he jack up 7-8 shots, but on a 40% rate.

watch detroit and you will see why he has to play smarter. that team is a dumb team. they play better with tracy on the floor b/c of those reasons. his +/- is usually +.

 

it's what i see and what others are writing, maybe i can find a write-up...

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2010/11/tracy_mcgrady_steps_up_his_off.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mave...5/mavs-cant-hold-lead-as-tracy-mcgrady-dishes

I think it looks like he is gradually returning to form AND he's showing leadership. Something he did under JVG. I really am beginning to suspect many of the problems he had here were with Adelman and he truthfully might have just been hurting.

I always thought if given the time to heal he'd make it back. He's not lazy like people say he is, but he does get disheartened.

 

tmac was at fault no doubt. he did a lot of unprofessional things that are really indefensible. but i feel it wasn't a one way thing where it was all his fault. but i understand where a lot of our fans are coming from. but he WAS HURT. there was no question about that. and he CAN get mentally weak.

i think that was why tmac was more disciplined under JVG. he holds him accountable (for the most part). adelman is too much of a player's coach (and that's why you see the lack of discipline this year with this team with less JVG-influenced players). adelman let tmac make decisions when he clearly wasn't in the right to make decisions in 08-09. when he started being tough with tmac, it was too late to salvage anything in 09-10. adelman should have told tmac to sit his ass down in 08-09 when he was hurt. if he did, the drama would have been squashed from the get-go.

both sides were at fault in the mishandling of the situation. i'm glad tmac matured a little bit, but what he did was wrong. no ifs and buts about it.

 

Boxscore doesn't say everything. That should help, buddy.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5722171&postcount=463

 

They are working him back slowly which is good for him. By mid season, I think he'll be starting with Prince and/or Hamilton traded.

Big reason why McGrady hasn't complained of playing time yet in my opinion.

 

people who criticize him for his declining play and previous history with the Rockets. people who actually seen him play for detroit and say that they aren't impressed.

i'm proud to be a clutchfan. always.

 

Oh hey look, it's tinman in another McGrady thread!

 

you can do that all you want.

the pathetic part is you constantly having the need to judge others and labeling pretty much everybody who likes tmac as TOF.

 

T-mac messed up but ya know what, a lot of star athletes muck up. People forget what a screw-ball Kobe was until Jackson got him to really focus.

JVG was doing the same thing with T-mac. He had T-mac playing D and all. T-mac never complained and people didn't slam him. You can definitely fault the guy, but I think people fault him because what happened killed our aspirations and he gets the blame for that.

Still, I was disappointed in the way Adelman handled T-mac. He set him up to look like a fool.

 

We would be lucky to have Tracy McGrady?

I don't know what to say to that. :grin:

We would also be lucky to have Scottie Pippen, huh?

 

What do you think Rockets management/Adelman should have done differently with T-Mac? And in your opinion who is more at fault for the messy divorce between the two parties?

 

in 08-09, tmac was limping from the get-go. adelman should have done to tmac what he did in 09-10. he should have said, "look you don't look ready so you aren't going to play until i think you are ready."

in 08-09, he didn't exert any influence over the situation and let tmac control the situation. you don't let star players (and sometimes they think they can still help the team) dictate if he plays or not. you're the coach; you are the person who determines who plays or not.

if adelman and management did what they did in 09-10 in 08-09, the situation could have EASILY been squashed. tmac would have sat his ass down until he proved himself in practice. if he came back, he would only play 7-8 minutes until he could prove himself otherwise.

it's easy to blame on the players. but adelman is the coach and he should have called the shots, not tmac. but his players' approach backfired.