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**Official McGrady/Pistons 2010 Regular Season Thread**

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by emjohn, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. A_3PO

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    He isn't the same player now. Plus, I'm not questioning the talent McGrady had, but the "leadership" thing wasn't something he did. He was purely a player, not a leader.

    Anyway, the last thing a contender usually needs from a late free-agent pickup is leadership, which is good for McGrady because he doesn't provide any. Contenders want a guy who does one or two things well on the court and knows his place in the pecking order (i.e, low). If McGrady is such a bargain for a good team, someone should want him now instead of waiting until next summer.
     
  2. mortiki85

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    Just saying it's an improvement...T-Mac would never cone back to Houston, it was just a thought
     
  3. Jeff Who

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    McGrady has shown he can be a good, maybe even great addition to a contending team comming off the bench. His passing is what teams want, especially in the 2nd units. And if he can regain his scoring touch it will help.

    Trading for him now may be difficult. He earns 1,3 million so you can't really do a lot to match salaries straight up. And he has a pretty high value for the Pistons IMO at least this season where they CAN still try for playoffs (although they won't make it).
     
  4. A_3PO

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    What contenders do you think he fits the best? When I look at Boston, Miami, Chicago, LA, Dallas and San Antonio, I don't see exactly where he fits in. Certainly not in a "leadership" sort of way (which I think is ridiculous). As a passer? If you say so.

    If McGrady is considered valuable, a contender will trade for him this week. To say "he has a pretty high value for the Pistons" when they are 21-36, 11th place in the East and 4 1/2 games out of a playoff race to get a major smackdown in the first round, give me a break. LOL! The season can't end fast enough for Detroit. Motor City is Train-Wreck City.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    the pistons have been basically a .500 team with mcgrady in the starting lineup (and i'm sure they might have pulled out a few more wins if tmac actually played in the 4th for most of them).

    he would fit chicago PERFECTLY in their 2nd unit when drose gets a break. the guy can still run a team and control a game for brief stretches. and he can still pass in a pick and roll with the best of them (ask greg monroe).

    it's unrealistic to say he'd be the missing piece to any team. but he can be a very valuable contributor to a lot of teams the way he's playing right now.
     
  6. TheGreat

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    He would be a HUGE difference on the Bulls.

    They need a talented offensive shooting guard on that team. I know they are doing amazing right now with Noah and Boozer injured during the season, but with McGrady there, I bet they will be even better.

    He's shooting the 3 pretty good this year at a 36% clip.
     
  7. trueroxfan

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    Hell no, don't give any credit to his teammates, these are guys like luther head and rafer alston WE HAD NO TEAMMATES, WE HAD YAO AND TRACY and coaches.

    you people are blind and ignorant

    mcgrady is a veteran who most certainly can bring leadership, look what he has turned monroe into, if only stromile had the hands that monroe has. mcgrady can certainly bring something to a championship team, teams like the lakers are always adding veterans to their rosters and mcgrady is cheap.

    as for whoever said something about if what i say is true hed be gone by deadline...no? a championship team is nt going to trade for him, because what can they offer detroit? nothing.

    plus, maybe mcgrady likes playing p-f and will actually want to remain a piston so he can continue to start, who knows. but seriously to all of you who are just brushing my comments aside as if i am "inflating" his abilities, or just riding him because he's my god? no, i watch basketball, and not just rockets basketball.

    for years mcgrady turned **** into wine, no he didnt get out of the playoffs, but half the time yao was out, and he wasnt always healthy either. we had crap crap crap crap for a roster outside those two, and they (when healthy) were always getting as much as they could out of them. too bad the role players never showed the f up in the playoffs

    so annoyed by the ignorant fools who dont even watch mcgrady play and judge him. what did you watch a clip? read an article? read some blog about the guy who wants to murder mcgrady? wtf are you doing to get your pos information

    lol@mcgrady NOT being a veteran capable of bringing leadership and more to a team in need. wake up people, and then read basketball for dummies
     
  8. tinman

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    you tmac fans get these things mixed up

    Lead-er
    Lead Scor-er

    they aren't the same. especially if you are the guy who can't a lead 4 and maybe 5 teams to playoff series win.
     
  9. RedRedemption

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    Yeah I agree. At this point in his career he's not going to do much leading, if he ever does join a contender.
     
  10. RedRedemption

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    Lmao. Tinman, if you call me a TOF then what do you call this? :grin:
     
  11. tinman

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    someone forgot to tell this guy that tmac never won a playoff series :cool:

    this guy makes you look like a guy wearing an olajuwon jersey.
    ;)
     
  12. tinman

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    speaking of the Pistons. I must educate some of the "new" Pistons fans what a LEADER does

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  13. apollo33

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    So we are going to play the Pistons

    I think I'm going to post and read both threads for different perspectives on the game lolz
     
  14. trueroxfan

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    a tof? i am a fan of basketball. are you? are you a fan of incredibly gifted players? just because he leaves the rockets doesn't mean i don't watch the guy, it also doesn't mean that he is the only player i like, or that i have more regard for him than the rockets.

    too many of you are rockets fans only, cant even cheer for other players without being labeled. why do you all have to split people into groups of who likes who?

    put me in the basketball fan group, i don't play your childish tof/yof bull
     
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  15. trueroxfan

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    huh? PLAYOFFS. you dont think tmac would play injured in the playoffs? lol
    you dont think tmac performed in the playoffs? isnt he like top 5 playoff scorer? you think because he is injured a lot he is weak and doesnt care about his team. you think he didnt want to play when we had yao and artest? stfu, you serious?
     
  16. trueroxfan

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    dude, to provide veteran leadership, you dont have to guide the boyscouts through the forest and show them how to make their boxcars. locker room guys, guys who have been through the nba, know about big shots and big games. he has triumphed and failed in many things, he can offer advice and LEADERSHIP to other young players. which is why he should be with the bulls imo
     
  17. ken

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    shane do too.......
     
  18. _RTM_

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    pussyass tinmac. Again...
     
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  20. A_3PO

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    In other words, he provides veteran leadership simply because he's an older player who has been in the NBA a long time. Defined that way, OK.

    McMouthy would indeed be on the Bulls but he just couldn't shut up. With guys like Kurt Thomas, Boozer and Bogans already there, they certainly don't need him in the locker room. And their younger players like Rose, Noah and Brewer already have a grit and toughness McGrady never had. Not to mention they have an intense, old-style coach that won't coddle McGrady and give him a different set of rules the way JVG did.
     

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