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[Official] Lost: Season 3

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rodrick_98, Sep 17, 2006.

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  1. GRENDEL

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    I know what you mean, seems like forever and a day
     
  2. Clutch

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    I'm not sure what belongs in a spoiler tag or not in this thread, but just in case for those debating whether it was a flashback or flash forward....

    Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but I read somewhere that there was an anagram on a sign for a law firm that was important when Jack went to the viewing. I went back on DVR and it wasn't a "law firm" but the funeral home itself. It's called "HOFFS/DRAWLAR", which is an anagram for "FLASH FORWARD".

    Of course I didn't make this discovery or anything ... when doing a search for "Hoffs/Drawlar" there are plenty talking about it:


    I was extremely disappointed at first, when I first saw the finale. Most of it was great but the ending left me disappointed. I built this "game-changing moment" up in my mind and it was way bigger than this. But the more I reflect on it, it's pretty cool.

    I just worry that they have opened up soooo many mysteries that we will never get the perfect closure on everything.
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    I think the game-changing moment is that Ben was right. We may not know it yet for sure, but I'm guessing very soon Ben's camp will be allied with the Losties against whomever fugly wugly Naomi was working with.

    On a side note, how any of you could find that dog even remotely attractive is beyond me. To quote Drewdog, "oh my gross".
     
  4. GRENDEL

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    I'm telling you she looks like Soul man! :D
     
  5. Clutch

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    Possibly.

    Also, is it obvious (or am I reaching) that the people on the boat that Naomi came from are working for Penelope's father? I mean Naomi did have a photo of Desmond and Penelope. Desmond was in that sailboat race against her father (against? I can't remember) when he ended up on the island. Penny has people working for her in freakin' Anatartica and looking for magnetic anomalies or whatever and they said they "found it". So Penny seems to know something about Desmond being on a mysterious, undetectable island.

    I'm guessing Penny's father knows about the island and is somehow tied to Dharma back in the day. But you can't find it from the outside without having some "in". Jack, in his flash forward for example, had all these maps and seemed completely clueless on how to get back to the island.
     
  6. MadMax

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    So I was watching a nerdy documentary I recoreded on my DVR about the Bermuda Triangle. There are theorists out there who believe that black holes can exist on earth. And they speculate that, given the ridiculous electromagnetic readings they get in that area, it's possible that explains black holes. Then they talk about how black holes are theoretically connected to white holes on the other end with a worm hole. Directly on the other side of the globe is the Dragon's Triangle off the coast of Bermuda characterized by lost ships/planes, etc. and all sorts of electromagnetic actiivty.

    I realize it's kinda off topic..but generally it reminded me very much of what we're talking about here with regard to the island and the electromagnetic power "inside" it.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    Except didn't she say she had no idea about a boat 18 miles off the island?
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    There was a Widmore Labs label on the balloon flown by the 'real' Henry Gale, and some of the food from the Swan food drops has a 'Widmore Labs' label. Penny is, of course, Penelope Widmore, daughter of Charles Widmore, of Widmore Labs.
     
  9. GRENDEL

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    She didn't personally. I would imagine that if her father was involved he would be doing so to for two reasons.

    One, he never cared for Desmond and wanted to make sure he and Penny were never together, hence he'd want to make sure he never left that island.

    Two, her father may have been a member of Dharma and he wants to know what happened to the original Dharma researchers, whom Ben and the Others killed.

    The later would explain Ben's fear of having them find the island.
     
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    From my understanding of black holes(which is very limited, but something I enjoy reading about) it is not possible for them to exist on the earth or the earth would be sucked into it.

    One speck of a black hole the size of a pinhead would weigh thousands of times more than our sun, and thus have a such a huge gravity, that the earth, moon, and who knows what else would be sucked into it.
     
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    thats crazy if true its boggles me how some people can remember the most minute details and can tie them in. also how the writers purposefully put in these "easter eggs" of sorts to keep people guessing and speculating.

    its a shame though that charlie felt he had to die unless there was no way of sealing the door to the radio room from the outside...i really enjoyed his character

    and speaking of the looking glass if Ben kept the two ladies in that station for so long as a secret how did they survive? their oxygen must have run out a long time ago unless they have some device that constantly produces oxygen at a decent volume. (i dont see how plants without any natural sunlight can produce enough down there for them to survive for so long) also how did they eat and drink? if ben kept them a secret, did they also grow their own food down there somehow or snuck up to the island whenever there was food drops? i can understand if the anchor line was also a power line for TLG but wouldnt cutting the line also have then stopped the jamming signal?

    another thing a friend at work was saying is that clearly now the "others" were not members of the original dharma group, so why would dharma still be making food drops to the island?

    the one thing that bugs me a bit about the show is how they start some mysteries but once they select one mystery as more "intriguing" than another they drop the other ones. like walt made an appearance again in the season finale but whatever happened to michael and walt?...what about the island monster is that something controlled by dharma or the "others"? what ever happened to the rest of russo crew? were they then part of the original dharma or a third group that came to the island or were they part of "the others"

    also some inconsistencies that had me thinking lately, maybe people here can help clarify:

    If juliette said that they have been jamming russo's signal and thats why nothing got through...it must have been going on for what 16 years or so (oh and alex, russo daughter does not look like she is 16 to me) so they must have been jamming signals for a much longer period than that...so what was the point of the station then that mikael was at? how did they receive tv broadcasts and video when frequencies were being jammed? i mean juliette showed jack a video tape of the red sox winning the series in 04 so they must have had some sort of communication come to the island. and also ben showed juliette video of her sisters son. mikael was oblivious to TLG working, but he seems like a man who would know if there is a jamming signal. if they had stop the signal (if ben told the ladies) temp to receive transmissions then wouldnt russo's signal been broadcast for that small period of time...granted its small but with penny apparently searching all over the area for any sort of anomaly it wouldnt be far fetched that her group could have picked up that signal. also wouldnt a jamming signal prevent any sort of walkie-talkie communication as well? also remember in an episode where hurley was able to listen to the radio and get some classical music broadcast.

    also how did russo stay alive if any pregnant woman on the island dies? if ben is the father than alex was conceived on the island. i would think that juliette would have wanted to examine her for reasons why. and its seems ben and co seems to know a lot about everyone there and have a file one everyone so figure that they could have tracked down russo. they knew she was alive too as she helped locke and sayid capture ben (i believe it was an arrow from her crossbow) and she told the losties to not believe a word he says.

    what about the original hatch? it looked like a member of dharma was still in it when desmond took over, so why didnt the others try to take over that hatch...if they had two of their ladies in water for so long unknown i am sure ben could have convinced a few of their people to enter the code and ensure total control over the island's hatches, especially a hatch which as seen had some dangerous abilities. ben does not want anything on or off the island and it was that hatch which caused the electromagnetic anomaly to cause flight 815 to crash.

    sorry a bunch of rambling thoughts ended in this long winded post, but the show can been so amazing and frustrating at the same time
     
  12. geeimsobored

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    Perhaps only outgoing transmissions are blocked? All of those things you cited, the classical music, the video, etc.. are all incoming transmissions from the outside world. Rousseau's signal was probably blocking anything from leaving the island, hence maintaining the idea that the island cannot be found.

    I don't think Ben was the biological father. I think Alex's dad was killed by Rousseau when she said everyone got "sick." Ben simply adopted Alex when she was abducted by the others.
     
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    Regarding the Balloon:

    I think that the balloon was made by Widmore Labs but that Henry Gale has no relationship with Charles Widmore.

    1)Henry was a black man from Minnesota and the balloon says "Minnesota Metallurgy". Kind of unlikely he's working for a Brittish Tycoon.
    2)He had a $20 bill in his wallet on which he had written. "Jennifer, Well you were right. Crossing the Pacific isn't easy. I owe you a beer. I'm hiking to one of the beaches to start a signal fire, but if you're reading this, I guess I didn't make it. I'm sorry, I love you Jenny, always have, always will. Yours, Henry"

    I think it's just another happy coincidence. The balloon says Proudly Sponsored by Mr. Clucks and Nozz-a-La Cola.

    I hope these images show:
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    Of note. Widmore Labs also made the pregnancy test than Sun took.
     
  15. Cannonball

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    Regarding Rousseau:

    Ben is not the father. She became pregnant off the island and gave birth on the island just like Claire. She was 7 months pregnant when she got to the islant. The "disease" that affects pregnat woment on the islant apparantly occurs at conception.

    She was never a member of Dharma. She was part of a 6 person scientific exploration team. They came to the island when she heard a transmission repeating the "numbers." Their instruments went crazy and then they crashed on a rocky shore.
     
  16. MadMax

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    i don't know. the guys in the show appeared to be smarter than me, but that's not a tall task. they were theorists. they were suggesting that black holes might be all around us in much smaller forms than we imagine.

    again...i'm not suggesting they're right. i have no freaking idea. i can explain the infield fly rule, though.
     
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    The last time we spent months analyzing what might happen, we were severely disappointed. (ie. Matrix 3)

    I'm just going to sit back and wait for Season 4 of Rescue Me.
     
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    ok, one small point, i haven't seen discussed, when Mikail arrived at TLG, he said to the blond chick something to the effect of "what are you doing here, i thought you were on assignment in Canada..."

    Canada?
     
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    well clearly ben had a way with communicating with the outside world from mikail's station otherwise there would have been no way they could have had a live feed of juliette's sister and kid. Also incoming must have been blocked because literally as soon as the jamming signal stopped Penny's transmission came through....granted that none of the losties had equipment to receive her tranmission mikail must have at his station. remember it seems that most of the "others" believe that they can leave the island so he should have been able to receive her signal if that were the case and at the very least told ben. and if mikail did speak with penny on a previous occasion she may have been able to get a fix on the island. it would be too convenient if penny's only transmission came 3-5 seconds after charlie stopped the signal, i refuse to believe something like that.
     

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