I disagree. At least in WV, KY and PA it seems a lot of them were not voting for Clinton but against Obama (or any black person for that matter). Some of these people would just never vote for a black person period. The question is how many of the black voters who voted for Obama would vote for a white person. I think we know the answer to that.
Pretty much - It will always be that way. Ones that actually do the research and know their candidate will do the best job for America can only do their part in voting. That's why candidates have to be so plastic. Americans are too lazy to read a wikipedia article on Hillary or Obama, when Grandpa has been voting Republican for the past 70 years, you vote Republican...just how it goes.
Thanks Donny! Some numbers to chew on from camp Black Eagle -- Obama raised $31 million last month for the primary, with an additional $600,000 for the general election. Other numbers: New donors in April: 200,000 94% of contributions were under $200 93% of contributions were $100 or less 77% of contributions were $50 or less 52% of contributions were $25 or less Number of donors to the Obama campaign overall at the end of April: 1.475 million Number of contributions given: 2,929,000 million Average donation: $91 Cash on Hand: $37.3 million (plus an additional $9.2 million for the general election)
The Kentucky and West Virginia(and even Pennsylvania to a lesser extent) primaries do pose a problem for Obama in the general election. If all these Democratic voters are going with Clinton over him simply because of race, what happens when you throw GOP and independent voters into the mix come November?
Obama has shown that once he gets into a state and spends some time there and people get to know him, he does very well. I agree that it was a mistake for him to completely blow off Kentucky (he should have at least gone there and made the case of “you may not like me, but I’m here for you”). There’s 6 months until the election. Plenty of time to make some inroads. But while the Appalachian region is important, remember that Obama plans to open up the map across the nation and be competitive in states that typically democrats stay away from. So, hopefully, there is a lot of opportunity to offset any loses in those states. But you're right! He's got some work to do!
Also you have to take into consideration, in Kentucky the primaries are only for declared democrats and republicans. I wasn't allowed to vote in the primary because I am registered as independent. http://elect.ky.gov/registrationinfo/infoguide.htm So those of us who like to think for ourselves and not on any strict party line couldn't even help choose Hillary or Obama.
Simply awesome fundraising numbers. Clinton is raising about twice what McCain is and both are being killed by the Obama money juggernaut. Impeach Bush.
jgreen, you are african-american, correct? Do you find it acceptable to refer to Kentucky as 'hickville', knowing full well that you are primarily, if not exclusively, referring to whites in the pejorative with that comment? Most would perceive that as racist on your part. Of course, on this uber-liberal leaning board, it goes without prior rebuke. No surprise. What if a white person said that Obama was winning the 'ghetto vote'? Would you take offense at that? If so, please recognize that non-blacks could take offense at 'hickville'. This is part of the racial understanding that has escaped Obama's supporters for too long.
Would it be presumptive of me to assume that a large percentage of Democrats choosing Hillary in the Democratic primary might very well choose the Democratic nominee in the general election? Trader J, based upon your vast knowledge of voter tendencies, what percent of Hillary's Democratic primary voters will switch to McCain in the general election? How large will the percentage of defectors need to be to swing the vote?
Registering independent is symbolic, and by doing it you exclude yourself from an important part of the democratic process. Register with whichever party most closely represents you, Republican, Libertarian, Green, Communist, Nazi, or even (God forbid) Democratic, and participate in their primaries (or conventions or however they nominate candidates). Then vote your conscience in November. You're not tied to actively support or even vote for whom your party nominates, but if you don't participate in the process, you have little standing to complain about the candidate choices. And since I voted in a primary, and participated in conventions, I will exercise my right to complain about nominees a lot.
You're right. They won't. The problem Obama has is he's gonna be more competitive in certain red states(Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada) but traditionally blue states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota will be up for grabs for McCain. That hurts Obama more than it helps in terms of electoral votes.
why does your point stand? I see white posters refer to lower class whites as "white trash" all the time. a term I don't use and i would find it offensive even if i were white or at least i think i would. this may be a whole nother thread topic but this is something i see quite often and honestly, my perception is that whites more than any other race berate the lower class memembers of their race with terms like "white trash", "hicks", "trailor park trash", etc. Open any thread on B Spears and you will almost certainly see a post about her upbringing.
