Young people don't vote because they don't care. One thing they do care about his climate change. #Idiots.
It doesn't have to be a thought experiment. Look back a few decade in the US when margin tax rate at the top is very high. Look at current EU where tax rates are high. Look to the north where tax rate are high. Heck, look at Alaska where there is a form of "basic income". Maybe they do work less, not as hard, but the evidence clearly suggest people would still work and not hang around for basic free stuffs.
20 year old cartoons scare no-one or convince people to support the top 1%. Even Fox news polls show 65% of people in favor of taxing billionaires.
The Wall Street Journal's Kimberley Strassel is also laughing. this is not good for Green New Dealers
Megan McArdle in the Washington Post: "‘We’re nuts!’ isn’t a great pitch for a Green New Deal" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.88484caf4a0f
The sad thing is with the kind of plan she is pushing they will have to take way more than half. That was the best meme I could find to accentuate my point with a quick search Would you still want to work hard for the respect angle if they are taking 80 - 90% or more? Actually it would not matter for very long any way due to the hyperinflation that would ensue due to all the money printing. Once it all collapsed it would be the people who know how to take care of themselves that would survive if they are not killed by the starving mobs first. The gun hoarders(which I am not even though I am strong 2nd Amendment supporter) would be the most likely to survive if they know how to grow a garden, hunt, and fish as long as long as they were able to protect themselves.
the majority voting to confiscate the wealth of the minority has been around for as long as democracy Envy is the ugliest of human qualities
I'm not one of the super-rich, so I don't think the progressive tax plan that was proposed would actually take 50%+ pf my overall wealth. Even if the AOC cabal has some secret agenda, I'm pretty sure the scenario of economic collapse, subsistence farming, hunting and gathering, and fighting marauders with the artifacts of a bygone civilization is one we really need to worry that much about. If it does come to pass, I'm sure I'll die early in the process anyway, which is fine by me. On subject though, I think it's more constructive to logically rebut a bad plan with good arguments than it is to dreamcast end-of-the-world fantasies. Say it distorts the price signals in the market. Say it discourages investment. Say it misallocates risk. Say it deters people from participating in the labor market. Say it applies too much inflationary pressure. I think there are still a thousand things that have to go wrong before you and I are having a gunfight over your turnip crop.
Fear projection is powerful and I bet 95% of the time is wrong. “I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.” ― Mark Twain Social security and medicare will lead to Socialism and the destruction of Democracy. That was 1960. The famous Ronald Reagan: https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreagansocializedmedicine.htm One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it. ...this program, I promise you, will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow; and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country. Until, one day, as Norman Thomas said, we will awake to find that we have socialism. ...one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.
I would rather not work and get free stuff than wake up at 430 every morning. She may be on to something.
Might want to consider moving to Alaska as starter. $$$ thousands to you and family. Totally free. Just be a resident.
It seems cold weather turns people into communists. Doesn't explain Vietnam, but it does explain the old Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Canada, and Alaska. Climate change is sending blasts of cold arctic air down into the US, turning us into communists too!
@Astrodome The GOP fear is there will be no one left to do low paying jobs Mexicans will keep coming in But the increase in taxes will go to social services and retirement cash, not a $20-25k a year stipend We don't need more people working (not everyone has the same capacity and resources are limited) , we need more distribution of wealth . Those in the 8 figure annual income brackets have no intention of that happening as it would be the end of merit and no one to provide those at the high end of the merit scale the services that allows them to dedicate themselves to work. which is understandable.
Climate change and nuclear waste problems are nowhere near the same in terms of human danger @ThatBoyNick 1. Climate Change 2. Things related to climate change like disease, humans being wiped out of the ecosystem, low quality of life for those on the planet 3. Many other issues 100. Nuclear power waste and fallout. Considering the unused landmass it can be isolated on and the advances in safe nuclear tech that fossil fuel companies have been blocking the public from knowing about for decades, the stupidity of your question shows they have succeeded.
Well for starters, pretty much every Democrat running for the 2020 election has endorsed the plan. Surely it bared some discussion.
That's an interesting power ranking right there, @Commodore. I'm not sure how envy really competes with greed or pure cruelty/sadism. But envy is ugly, i agree. I don't agree that you can label all tax plans you don't like as "envy" though, if you want to be accurate.
We could just as easily characterize the recent tax cuts for the wealthy as avarice and declare avarice to be among the ugliest of human qualities. But I'm not sure it's helpful to characterize people's motivations in deciding public policy anyway. Here's a list of co-sponsors. It includes Booker, Warren, Sanders, Gillibrand, and Harris. Klobuchar isn't on this list but is mentioned in newspaper coverage. Beto and Castro are 'supportive of the concept.' No word on Biden, Clinton, Tulsi Gabbard, or Sherrod Brown. Of course, even the presidential hopefuls that support or sponsor the legislation can't keep letting AOC and Ed Markey set the agenda. They'll have to take over the GND narrative somehow to look presidential. Besides which, as formulated this GND is dead on arrival and could be a political liability for these candidates if they don't. I feel like we're watching the Democrats shoot themselves (or maybe us) in the foot again in real time.
