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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, May 15, 2006.

  1. aka ace

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    Sorry I mean to say "There are" reasons not "I have". I still admire Mike Tyson... and think hes one of the best boxers of all time.

    But anyways your still avoiding the question. What's your beef against Bonds?
     
  2. NIKEstrad

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    Here's the problem I see with Brad hitting 2nd - he's still primarily a groundball type hitter. Combine that with very average speed, and he's very double play prone, which is one of the last things you want out of the 2 slot hitter. Taveras' raw speed solves that.

    I still would consider making the move. Batting Taveras in front of Berkman has taken away his base stealing ability almost entirely. He's tied with a couple of old fogies in Ausmus and Preston Wilson for the team SB lead and is on pace for only about 12. Putting him into the bottom of the order would allow him to take more chances and wreak havoc on the basepaths.
     
  3. aka ace

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    But you can go from this.....

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  4. aka ace

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    Where was the press conference for Bonds "public" affair? Did he admit to committing adultry? Again all rumors, no evidence.
     
  5. Major

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    No evidence? She testified in the trial. There are documented audio and physical evidence of their relationship (financials, voicemails, etc). Her name is Kimberly Bell. She dated him for 9 years up until 2003. This is all very public information - you choosing to stick your head in the stand and ignore it does not equate to there being "no evidence".

    Since when do athletes have press conferences about affairs anyway? If you don't want see the reality, fine - but don't sit here and pretend you're trying to be objective.
     
  6. aka ace

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    You seem to know a lot about his affair, where are you getting this information? How do YOU know if they had an affair? Because the tabloids said so? Because she said so? How do you get your info..? There are many gold digging woman in this world seeking to get rich from another man. How do you know if she wasn't pulling this stunt to get money from him? Funny how she only came out now (during the steroids issue), but not after it happened in 2003.

    If Bonds said he did NOT have an affair with her, but she said she did, who are you going to believe? The woman with no credibility of course. You are anti-Bonds.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Aka ace is a Bondsaholic, he has taken a big drink of the Bond's Kool-aid, please don't feed the Bond's trolls.

    DD
     
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    You do see that the only difference in those pictures is more fat on his cheeks, right?

    Well, let's get more exact.
    1) Goatee. check
    2) Loss of mullet. check
    3) Less acne in older picture. check
    4) Fatter face in older picture (gasp!!!) check
    5) Burns. check
    6) Bigger lat muscles after 10+ years of heavy workouts. check
       no way--no guy can add to his lats without the juice!!! GUILTY!!! GUILTY I SAY!!!!

    As far as the general maturing of someone's face, every freaking man on the face of the earth must be 'roiders, because we *all* change like that over 15 years!!

    Scratch that, those pics are *proof*. :rolleyes:
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Yes, but Bonds did it AFTER 35 when he had already filled out......

    Bonds is a lying, cheating, arrogant, ash-hole, and all his apologists are destined to follow him to his grave.

    Barry Bonds meet Lyle Alzado !
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    Wow, dude.
     
  11. Major

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    Where did Bonds say he didn't have the affair? And did he do it under oath facing perjury (she did)?
     
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    Bonds is a cheating tool.

    But most importantly, HE'S NOT AN ASTRO.

    Why are we defending here, I don't get it. Props to Springer, should have beaned him right in the eye.
     
  13. aka ace

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    What did Bonds ever do to you? :eek: You make like you know him personally. I guess some people can't handle the truth, and the truth is he's one of the best ever to play baseball.
     
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    Wrong. She went under oath to testify against Bonds regarding his steroids issues it had nothing to do with an affair.

    Bonds has said many times she was just a friend nothing else.

    Like I said who are you going to believe... a so-called mistress who has been on Geraldo Rivera and Fox News channel to promote her new book on Bonds or Barry Bonds himself?
     
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    Strawman. I have not heard one single person - on this board or elsewhere - deny this fact.
     
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    She was called to testify about his steroid use, but in establishing the relationship, she testified that she was his girlfriend, and testified on the topic of their relationship. Nice try, though. Do you even know any of the facts, or do you just make stuff up as you go?

    Who are you going to believe, dozens of people who have no real stake in Bonds' success or failure and piles of government evidence ranging from witnesses to documents, or someone who's going to protect himself at all costs? Do you believe every single person who denies they committted a crime? By this standard, I assume you believe no one has ever committed a crime. I'll believe the evidence.
     
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    You have no clue do you? Whatever she said to the Grand Jury is private. It's not public information where you have access to. I suppose your get your information through the MEDIA. For all you know she could have said I was just Bond's friend, I did not see him take steroids ever. Let's go by facts and not media garbage... ok so she did testify against bonds (in 2005) using illegal steroids, but yet Bonds is still playing baseball everyday? Hmm something smells fishy. Perhaps she was lying the whole time and had to tell the truth to the jury, avoiding any possible perjury charges.

    Again I ask the question why hasn't Bonds been indicted already? Is he above the law? You go by your so-called "witnesses", "evidence" and what the media says i'll go with my two eyes and watch Barry Bonds chase Hank.
     
  18. Major

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    Ummm, because generally people gather evidence before they indict, and there is a process involved. I ask you again - do you know anything about the legal system?

    And you still haven't answered - where did Barry say he didn't have an affair? You indicated earlier that he made this statement but have yet to provide evidence. Or is this another case of you shifting the argument when it suits you?
     
  19. Major

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    Actually, the testimony is quite public because it was leaked and made public, and no one has challenged the credibility of that fact. Even Bonds chose to try to sue for profits from the book (and was denied) rather than suing for libel. In fact, the government has corroborated that by trying to find out who leaked it.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I mean they will apologize for him until Bonds croaks....
     

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