[Official] Evan Mobley as a Cleveland Cavaliers thread

Nobody's saying Capela is more valuable than Mobley, but people are acting like Mobley is Hakeem out there creating his own shot. Maybe in the future he can do that but thats not the reality now.

 

Why does the Allen narrative never mention that Cavs also lost 2/3 of their backcourt a long time ago as well??

Sexton and Rubio were both lost in the first half
Adding in Allen now, that's arguably 3 of their top 6 players lost, replaced with only Caris Lavert

What if Barnes had lost Trent, OG, then Siakim?

Doesn't really work with Green ...
I am still rooting for him to 'lose' Gordon, KPJ & Wood

 

Doubt they miss Sexton all that much. Backcourt also still had Garland, Rondo and LeVert.

 

Rondo is a vagabond journeyman at this point
LeVert is becoming another after getting traded 3 times in 18 mos

 

What is Sexton to you? Pretty sure Cle would jump at the chance to move on from him.

 

Cleveland didn’t miss Sexton…matter of fact, they’ve been trying to get rid of him for the longest

him being out allowed for Garland to take complete control of the team, and Sexton doesn’t help the defense anyways

the Cavs defense completely nosedived without Allen

 

Why didn’t you just say Mobley is assisted on 67% of his shots vs 77% for Capela instead of breaking it into 2s and 3s for Mobley? Or just compare 2pt% since Capela doesn’t shoot 3s. Seems like throwing in 3pt% was to obfuscate the stats.

FWIW Mobley is right around KAT. Jokic was 63% his rookie year and 62% this year. And Capela has been around 80% for most of his career.

 

Thats the stats on bball reference I dunno how you think throwing 3 pt% obfuscates any stats. If you wanna use a combined metric then give your link.


Kat has 53% of his 2 pts and 89% of his 3 pts assisted how is Mobley right around that number?
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/townska01.html

53% is right around 65%?
89% is right around 95%?

Who is obfuscating facts here you or me? Smh

 

That was somewhat intentional to highlight what it seemed like you were doing with 3% since big men almost always are assisted on those. But nba.com gives the full %.

Also you think 65% is right around 77% so I don’t know what to tell you.

More seriously.

For 2 pt KAT’s rookie year was 67%. Slightly higher than Mobley. For the next 3 years he was 60, 58, 64 before starting to get closer to 50.

Jokic in his rookie year was 60% then dropped year by year mostly before jumping back to 58% this year.

Capela has had two years at around 67% (including his second year) but 4 full seasons over 80% (his rookie year was 93% but he barely played so I won’t count that) in addition to this season at 77%. Mobley is much more likely on a somewhat KAT like offensive trajectory than Capela, with light years better D than KAT. He finished plenty of PNRs (which is still a skill) but did more than that and shows some potential to do a lot more.

 

Whats wrong sith including 3 pts thst are assisted? My whole post is showing how much of Mobleys shots are assisted so I'm supoosed to exclude shots that are always assisted? I wasnt comparing rookie years Im only looking at current year, I dunno why you put your own interpretation on my posts lol. The other poster was saying Mobley wasnt depending on others to set him up and he would be able to develop his own offense if he played on the Rox this year. This is obviously false bssed on the data we have.

Can Mobley learn to develop his own shooting in the future? Yes. I even said that in my post. Is he scoring on his own now? No. If he played on the Rox would he be able to score? Probably not.

 

How could the greatest rookie ever according to some not win ROY???

 

Evan Mobley looks so goofy. I know he is good, im just saying.

 

Evan Mobley, the poor man's Jabari Smith...