[Official] Evan Mobley as a Cleveland Cavaliers thread

I just don't get it. Why can't Mobely AND green one day develop into players who were worthy of the number 2 picks. Why does it have to be that it needed to be one will be a star and the other a bust? I think Mobely will always be the better defensive player and green will be the better offensive player. It will be interesting to see how they separate themselves from each other in both of those categories.

 

i had a feeling about him.. rookie wall?

 

Yeah, people just want to prove that they were right before the draft. It looks like both guys are going to be very good players. No need to trash either one.

Some Mobley fans acted like they were 100% sure Mobley would turn out to be a much better player than Green. When I called them out about the certainty, they called me stupid, ignorant, or some other things. I said that they sounded like they had come back from the future and knew exactly what would happen. LOL. Now these posters aren't as loud after just a few weeks.

I think this is probably Mobley's turn to hit the rookie wall. Lets look at it again next season.

 

Mobley has just about every physical attribute and skill you need to be a stud basketball player. He has one thing Jalen Green will never possess. A 7 foot frame and ridiculously freakish length. Given the Rockets’s defensive woes, maybe he should’ve been the pick now that we know for sure that Wood is not the answer at the 5. I say let’s wait and see how we build out the roster the next couple of years before making any definitive proclamations though. No matter what anybody says, I don’t think they draft Mobley and then Sengun. I don’t think they draft Mobley and then draft a guy like Chet if he ends up being the pick.

Mobley will be a really good player, but people proclaiming he’ll be a great player based on above average rookie stats and just okay stats for any player that isn’t a rookie are putting the cart waaaaay before the horse. Much like young JG, he has a long long way to go. His impact offensively isn’t even rookie year level Marvin Bagley and although he will almost certainly be an all defensive player one day, he isn’t dominating games on that end of the floor right now either and that is his biggest strength right now. He’s not locking guys up on the perimeter nor is he shutting down the paint. He’s a deterrent for sure and some of his biggest highlight plays this season have been on the defensive end, but he is not that guy. Not yet. You’d think he was having a Shaquille O’Neal level rookie year the way some people have been acting.

 

Notice on the drive how he uses his body after beating Mobley to prevent block from behind

 

I’m not sure what the point of this is.

 

Im thinking maybe it shows that the supposed once in a generation defensive savant getting cooked though I think that is unfair bc harden would do this to any big man in the history of this game maybe not named garnett

 

i'm sorry but there is no way harden would cook prime hakeem. he would cook garnett though.

 

no shame getting cooked by Harden. Young fella got lot to learn yet in the league

 

Im Not gonna argue against dream cause you know he is dream.

 

Mobley is average AF. Garland makes him look better than he is. If Garland was the PG for the Rockets he will make Jalen Green play like a star!

básically Mobley is a average scrub who has hit a rookie wall. While Jalen Green is the real Star

 

they should get married and produce a goat pf of the future. better than miguel yordan and dream

 

right. But when one of the best one on one scorers ever works over a rookie big man on a couple of plays…that means absolutely nothing. What does mean something is that a rebuilding cavs team is making the playoffs and overachieving, largely due to contributions from that young talent.

 

The point is that big guys get exploited by premier players to the point that they are almost unplayable in the playoffs.

 

that makes no sense

 

It makes sense but a bit overstated. "Unplayable in the playoffs" is too absolute a claim.

But it is true in a lot of cases. Big men who can stay on the floor for starter minutes in the playoffs are either very versatile on defense or their offense is so valuable it offsets their defensive liability.

Even a guy like Gobert, who is considered one of the (if not THE) best defensive big men in the league, got exploited in the last playoffs.

Mobley looks versatile enough to be able to be a plus value on the defensive end. His offense needs to be up to "very good" in order for a team to name him their franchise player. This is why most people believe that drafting a perimeter player is a safer bet when other things considered equal. (Note: I say "safer" not "better." When the outcomes are still uncertain--like before any of them has played a single NBA game--safer means having better chances. It does not guarantee that they will be better. Despite some people who act like they know the future for certain, we still don't know which player of this draft class will have the best career ahead of them.)

 

Can Evan Mobley carry his own team?