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[OFFICIAL] Elizabeth Warren for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. tallanvor

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    Do you actually believe she did this only once? Of course she put American Indian on her job applications.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Well in her first gig as a law proffesor at an elite university, a stepping stone that would be the ideal place to take advantage of her claim, she didn't and UPenn has confirmed it. Harvard also has stated that she did not advance her career based on the claim.
     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    And in the end it still isn't important. It is incredibly unsubstantial. There is zero evidence she ever used the claim to get ahead or benefit. It doesn't matter if she did it once or fifty times. It still isn't important.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    I agree it wouldn't be important if she could handle it better. She can't and a stupid story like this becomes a big deal and it sucks the oxygen from everything else about her. Trump gets away with this kind of stuff because he's so outrageous on everything that nothing matters. It doesn't work that way for his opponents.
     
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    Yea, listing yourself and allowing yourself to be listed as a minority in professional pieces is a problem if you aren't actually a minority.

    "Harvard Law School in the 1990s touted Warren, then a professor in Cambridge, as being "Native American." They singled her out, Warren later acknowledged, because she had listed herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory."

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html
     
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    Not really very important at all. If that is the worst people have on her, she should win hands down.
     
  10. HTM

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    This story is actually a really big deal and may even sink he candidacy before it begins so I think you're wrong on that.
     
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    Well she sure wasn't denouncing or correcting anyone while she was being heralded & celebrated in articles as 'first woman of color' at Harvard Law. She was totally down to being categorized as a minority in every statistic/poll. I suppose she just saw it as another accolade, another means to boost that reputation.. ya know, because reputations painting you in a positive light indeed get you ahead.
     
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    You can act like it's no big deal but it doesn't change the fact that it is a big deal. It dominates coverage of her again. This is the story that people will associate with her, wrong or right, that aren't hardcore informed voters.

    She's the liberal who wants to tax everyone and pretends to be an Indian. That's what people will think of her.
     
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    I'm not sure why that is important. There is no evidence she got any benefit from it. So why does anyone care?
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    The only reason it's a big deal is because some people care about stupid stuff that isn't important.
     
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    The only reason it's a big deal is because America. Got it. LOL.
     
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  16. Rashmon

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    Unfortunately, I tend to agree with those who see it as a problem. It's the optics that look bad and will be exploited to maximum damage with low information voters.
     
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    The thing is, she has to be a voter's first choice among maybe 20+ candidates. How is this going to affect her chances? The harsh truth is that her chances were not very good even without all of this mess.
     
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    Respectfuly, it seems like the people who are really upset are people who wouldn't vote for her anyway.

    IMO, she was never a great candidate for other reasons, but if they yell about it loudly enough people are going to write the narriative after the fact using the quickest thing that comes to mind.

    After the fact the narriative will be that she was poised to be the Dem nominee until the native American thing came out, and I just dont think that is very true. She was a long shot candidate who wont be the nominee for all the reasons that made her a long shot on the first place.
     
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  19. justtxyank

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    The people who are "upset" are just faux outrage people. Those people exist on both sides. They aren't really upset, their mission is to make the story big enough that it becomes the story people think about when they think of her. The less engaged voters who are up for grabs in the election or the borderline partisan voters who can be swayed. This kind of stuff hurts her with them.
     
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    Exactly. I don't want this to be the political reality, but it is, and I hope she can overcome it. If not, she will make quite a bit of noise as Secretary of the Treasury in the Harris administration.
     
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