I was never planning on buying a PS3 anyways, and the price only confirms my stance. Yeah you get a lot in the system but it's still, at its core, a game system. And 600 is a lot, especially consdering the 360 is 400. And yes, it's a great value considering you're getting a bluray player. But you know what, I don't care about that aspect of it. I buy a game console for that purpose only, gaming. If and when I decide to buy a next-generation dvd player (HDVD or Bluray), I'll buy a dedicated player. I'm sure many gamers have the same thought. And honestly, there is a noticeable difference between DVD and the next generation, but it's not as big a jump as VHS to DVD. So the need to go next gen just doesnt seem as prevalent. And then you add the fact that the controller isn't dual shock. That's a big sticking point for me. Honestly I'd rather have rumble capabilities than tilt-sensitivity. In this day and age how can you not play a game without rumbleness. And in this day and age, how can you not figure out a way to have both.
Exactly. And what happens if Bluray loses the format war (prob a big if). You wasted an extra few hundred bucks on obsolete equipment.
With the PS3's hard drive you can put so many games in there you don't have to buy them. (illegal I know) I had an modded XBOX and it was really fun.
As a bundle, it's a great deal. Some people like their games and media to be standalone so they can choose the best product out there. If everyone decided to wait for a pricedrop, Sony will be in a world of hurt. They've already admitted that they thought the price was too cheap. You should've bought an Xbox 5 years ago. That thing had excessively expensive features that didn't benefit their games in the long run (besides Live). Interestingly, when designing their consoles, Sony took the Xbox approach this generation, while Microsoft took the Gamecube approach. If HD-DVD wins the format wars, PS3 owners are stuck with a fancy format that mainly plays games. There isn't going to be a ridiculous price drop if Sony loses, so it's possible that in 3 years Sony will still have a $500 system while the 360 is able to drop its price even more. Sony is banking a lot on the PS3 helping blu-ray while hoping that it doesn't end up like the UMD. Microsoft doesn't have a money problem. Sony does. Inevitably, it's whether the 360 can make graphics and content as good as the PS3's for the first 3 years. If you own a PS and PS2, you'll know it isn't always about the most powerful machine.
Dumb move if they removed blu-ray. Sure the first generation games will mostly be in dvd format, but after the first year or two, they will be in blu-ray. Add-ons is a stupid move. Has nintendo ever released any add-ons? Sega Genesis has...32x and the cd drive. Look how Sega ended up. They didn't release any add ons for their Saturn or Dreamcast. Microsoft...imo won't make it as a powerhouse game console until maybe their 4th system, and thats stretching it. Nintendo looks like their back on board to being number 2 while Sony will still be number 1. The life span of the PS2 is roughly 6-7 years. Taken that into consideration, the same should hold true for PS3. That'll give us plenty of time for the dvd to blu-ray transition. Look at it from this prospective, you paid $400 for xbox 360 premium, +$200 for hd-dvd add on, thats $600. How much do you think a xbox 360 system will cost with Hd-dvd and wifi built in? The same as PS3 or more, so quit crying. Hd-dvd has 3 Hollywood studio supporters while Blu-ray is only missing Universal, what does that tell you? Im sure the industry knows more about hd-dvd/blu-ray then we will and its clear which format they chose. The 360 HD-dvd add on only plays movies...paving the way for a redesigned 360 with hd-dvd support built in that will play games. The dvd format on video games will only last 2-3 more years at the most before they evolve to blu-ray/hd-dvd. Thats going to leave alot of 360 owners in the dust who refuse to pay additional $$ for an add-on or $$$ to buy a new 360 w/hd-dvd to play future games on their console.
satellite internet connections have plenty of downstream bandwidth, more than enough for gaming. however, the problem with satellite is it has horrendous latency (ie ping). bandwidth and latency are two totally different things. for the original person who asked...basically, you don't really ever want to game with a satellite connection, unless you don't mind having a 500-2000 ping. it's fine for DLing files though
I think I know that since I said I had a modded Xbox... I mentioned PS3 because it has a much better collection of games.
i dont see that happenning, you must have a monster game with tons of data to fill up a whole dvd. they fit Oblivion on DVD and that game is giagantic. Also programmers are maximizing their code. look at Lost Planet Demo on x360, that demo is huge and it was only 300meg.
I wish Nintendo had more RPG's and better basketball games... it would seal the deal for me. But it doesn't, and those are my favorite kind of games.
Goood points, CYF, but I've got to disagree for the following reason: I didn't play CD's in my PS, I didn't use my PS2 for a DVD player, and I don't anticipate using my 360 or PS3,should I get one, to do it either. As Blu Ray/HD DVD prices plummet (just as DVD player, CD player, and VHS prices plummeted) you'll be able to get a higher quality product (dedicated standalone player) at a decent price. Wiht respect to games, as Tinman says, the limit of regular DVD storage capacity hasn't been an obstacle so far, and if it becomes one: hello multi disc games. If you have 200 hours of gameplay - getting up to change the disc once every hundred hours is no biggie.
The reason Snake looks older is because of accelerated aging due to the cloning process. Remember, he is a clone of Big Boss.
Has Bungie ever shown off CGI to hype up Halo? I was under the impression that they always tried to use realtime footage, like Kojima's team (and a few others). I think they may have needed to scale back on the graphics after the original Halo 2 footage, but I thought their stuff was always "real." I'm not so sure that everyone would be happy. It seems like a lot of people were/are looking at the PS3 being their first Blu-ray player. I'd also question if the movie studios would happy to lose out on an extra ~6M BR players within a year after launch (higher BR disc prices and/or smaller movie selection). And that's just looking at Blu-ray as a movie format. There's also plenty of pluses for it as a games format, some of which we probably won't notice until much later. One thing that Sony has touted for Blu-ray games are global SKUs for each game (IOW, one game for all regions). Some of the MGS fans are excited about having the possibility of playing MGS4 with the original Japanese voice actors. Take away Blu-ray, the technology that allowed for such a thing, and you'll get some more disappointed people. And as mentioned later, add-ons are a terrible idea (IMO). Maybe it is just me, but I always thought the rumble stuff was overrated. It always seemed more annoying to me that useful. The best use I ever had for it was with a fishing minigame (the rumble simulating a fish nibbling/biting your bait). I wouldn't mind having it, but I don't really care that much that it is gone either. FWIW, from the impressions at E3, it sounds like the tilt features in Warhawk are very nice (as is the game itself). I don't think the feature will be that big of a deal, but apparently it has its uses (at least in some games). Oblivion is more like an exception rather than a rule. IIRC, Morrowind fit on a single CD, yet we had games pushing the maximum amount of space from SL and DL DVDs this past generation. BTW, I should note that despite my personal disappointment with the PS3's price, I don't necessarily think it is a bad move by Sony, depending on what happens 6-12 months after launch. I kind of touched on this earlier, but if Sony can somehow sell ~10M consoles at $600 (probably more at $600 than $500), and then cut the price to say $450-$500 by mid-to-late 2007 (around the same time the big hitters come out), and then maybe another $50-$100 in the next 6 months or so, then this decision may have worked out really well for them. This might be a little like the PS2 right now actually. Sony sacrificing potential marketshare in order to gain more profits (or lose less money in this case I imagine). Of course, they'll try their best to make it seem like such price cuts are not going to happen anytime soon, but it would be an interesting strategy to use. On the other hand, if they aren't so aggressive on these price cuts, then I can see there being some problems for Sony.
Maybe you didn't use the PS2 as a DVD player, but a lot of early adopters did (myself included). It was an even bigger deal in Japan since it launched at a time when DVD players were still a little overpriced. I wouldn't doubt it if the PS3 had a similar effect on Blu-ray...maybe even a bigger one since it will be coming out at the very beginning of its lifespans (compared to the 2-3 years after DVD launched for the PS2 IIRC).
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/nba...=NBA 2K7 - Players going to the scorer's table for substitutions in real-time - Revamped arenas, crowds, coaches (2k6 looked weird bc it seemed like only the players were next-gen) - Ability to explode out of the triple threat (lacking in 2k6) - Revamped sweat physics - Improved animations - No more steel rims that dont move! WOW!!! THAT IS AWESOME, CHECK OUT THE VIDEO~! I might get a 360 instead.
For anyone who didn't see it.. Super Smash Bros Brawl Trailer - http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html Personally, the N64 version just seems like the best one still. This one looks nearly identical to the gamecube version which was nice but seemed harder to use than the n64 version. But overall, its still a good buy. I think I'm going Nintendo with this generation
