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[official] DeSantis for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, May 24, 2023.

  1. adoo

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    In political irony, California could be key for Trump and Diet Trump

    https://www.ocregister.com/2023/06/...lifornia-could-be-key-for-trump-and-desantis/




    Trump
    has never won a general election in Calif; both times he ran for President, the Golden state provided the votes to inflict national popular vote defeats upon him. While in office, he did all he could to exact revenge on California,
    from trying to skew Census results to minimize the state’s population to acting slowly on getting relief funding for wildfire victims, and more.​

    Diet Trump, meanwhile,
    publicly feuds with California Gov. Gavin Newsom over everything from tactics for dealing with the coronavirus to sending undocumented immigrants from Texas to California. He also seeks to harm the Walt Disney Co.,
    one of California’s largest corporations and Florida’s biggest private employer, with huge operations near Orlando.


    Early polling performed prior to the latest Trump indictment suggests Diet Trump might get a fair number of those California delegates. Recent polls on the primary showed only Diet Trump and Trump
    over the 20 percent level needed to win any delegates at all.

    Diet Trump figures to raise more money here than Trump, as one survey – from the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies – found Diet Trump leading among college graduates by 39-23 percent.

    Generally, college graduates provide more campaign dollars than others. The Berkeley poll surveyed more than 7,500 likely voters, one of the largest samplings in recent years.

    Yet, neither Trump nor Diet Trump has much chance of carrying California in November of next year, no matter how the primary turns out. No Republican presidential candidate has won here since
    George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by 51-48 percent in 1988.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    This law makes no sense to me, what is it aimed to achieve? I mean, what is the rationale they give? Consumer protection?
     
  3. CCorn

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    “Creates jobs”. We have a similar law in Texas. Car dealerships employ a ton of people. I understand both sides of the argument. More jobs is great, but the consumer is forced to pay a bit more.

    This allows Tesla to operate as normal while new DTC auto companies will not be allowed to create a local footprint in Florida.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Only 4 pages. Sad.

     
  5. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    I was expecting DeSantis’ woke war to backfire if he ever makes it out of the primary. This indicates that it has already backfired.


    https://www.thestreet.com/travel/disney-gets-a-big-win-in-battle-with-desantis

    DeSantis Less Popular, Disney Holds Steady
    When someone runs for president, they need to build a national image and find an audience that supports their platform. DeSantis tried to use Disney to vault himself to the national stage, but a new June 15 poll from Navigator shows that those efforts have not worked.

    "Over the last year, views of Disney have remained steady, as nearly two in three Americans (63%) express favorable views. By contrast, views of DeSantis (32% favorable) have declined substantially since November: he is now 16 points underwater with Americans overall (down from net +2 favorable in November) and has seen double-digit declines in favorability across party lines," the website reported.

    Those changes are not just Democrats and Independents losing faith in the Florida Governor, his standing has also fallen by an even greater amount with Republicans.

    "Views of DeSantis have declined net 17 points among Democrats, 18 points among independents, and 19 points among Republicans," the poll showed.

    Americans Don't Want to Be More Like Florida
    Navigator describes itself as "a project designed to better understand the American public’s views on issues of the day and help advocates, elected officials, and other interested parties understand the language, imagery, and messaging needed to make and win key policy arguments." It uses Global Strategy Group, an independent company, to conduct its polls.

    This poll also found that Americans have cooled to DeSantis' idea of making America more like Florida.

    "Since early April, Americans across party lines have cooled to the idea, driven by large declines among independents (net -31 appealing now, compared to net -5 in April) and Republicans (net +28 now, down from net +52)," the company shared.

    The poll was conducted online June 2-5.

    "Respondents were verified against a voter file and special care was taken to ensure the demographic composition of our sample matched that of the national registered voter population across a variety of demographic variables," according to Navigator's website.
     
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  6. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Who knew that people didn’t want an angry, petulant fascist in the White House and that people love Disney?
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    More jerbs fer Texas?

    Thanks Ronny!
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    It should be obvious how much this country depends on immigrant labor both legal and illegal. For a party that prides itself as pro business and pro economy the GOP of late has been more than willing to sacrifice, or not consider, economic development for the culture war.
     
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    Why is the DeSantis campaign struggling?



    DeSantis would not have been governor, in all likelihood, were it not for a Trump endorsement — via tweet — that elevated him in the Republican gubernatorial primary over establishment choice Adam Putnam, then the state agriculture secretary.

    Five-and-a-half years later, the two men are bitter enemies, in large part because Trump perceives DeSantis as disloyal for not waiting until 2028 to seek the presidency.

    Although more than a dozen Republicans are running for president — including his own former vice president, Pence, and U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley — Trump has been fixated on destroying DeSantis, attacking him at every opportunity.

    DeSantis needs to attract Trump supporters in order to have any chance of winning the GOP primary, but he isn’t likely to do so if he throws hard counterpunches. So far, he has resorted to making oblique references to Trump without challenging him directly, the way some donors and supporters say he needs to do.

    That dynamic has presented an odd dissonance, with a candidate who says he never backs down from a fight studiously unwilling to directly take on the formidable opponent who stands in his way.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    it’s a good speech.

     
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    So @basso you have switched from Trump to DeSantis now???

    T_Man
     
  15. basso

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    I'm Team Nikki.
     
  16. T_Man

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    So enlightened me on why you Nikki and do you have the same stance as she does on the Trump indictment?

    T_Man
     
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    I'm amazed how murky finance laws allows Trump to double dip campaign funds to pay for legal fees, but I suppose each time he lies his way onto the stand is free publicity chum for FNN/CNN/MSNBC to lap up and regurgitate for their gutter oil dependents.
     
  18. basso

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    I'm not familiar with her stance on the Trump indictment, but generally, I am not a one-issue voter.
     
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