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[Official] Astros @ Twins

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, May 29, 2017.

  1. Uprising

    Uprising Contributing Member

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    Good read about the Astros

     
  2. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

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    Jeff Sullivans of Fangraphs is supposedly writing an Astros article according to the comments in Dave Cameron's Cubs article.
     
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  4. T for 3

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    why are you on a trolling binge? (btw not a jinx, if its an obvious troll.)
     
  5. LonghornFan

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    http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/6/1/15723736/astros-2017-al-west-oh-wow-si-look-at-you

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    Back in the summer of 2014, Sports Illustrated released an issue of their magazine with a cover that got a whole lot of people riled up. Said cover included the words "Your 2017 World Series champs" in reference to the Astros, who, at the time, were 33-46 and in last place in the AL West. Fast-forward to June 1 of 2017, and the Astros have the best record in Major League Baseball at 38-16, with a commanding 11-game lead over the second-place Angels.

    The Sports Illustrated cover wasn't as outrageous at the time as some claimed — sure, it was funny as hell to see a prediction like that, but baseball teams run in cycles, and the Astros' farm system was ready for harvesting. Grant Brisbee even noted at the time that, since teams tend to run in three-year cycles, the Cubs facing the Astros in the 2017 World Series probably wouldn't sound ridiculous by then. And hey, look at that.

    The Astros have the best lineup in baseball, and it's not close: their OPS+ is 126, while the second-highest in the league is the Nationals at 114. While the Astros clearly need another starter to give them depth and comfort, between the Dallas Keuchel renaissance, Lance McCullers, and a bullpen full of strikeouts, they still have managed to rank seventh in the majors and fourth in the AL in ERA+.

    The Astros might reach 300 runs scored before all 30 teams have even crossed the 200-run threshold. They've scored 90 more runs than they've allowed even with a rotation that isn't quite where it needs to be. If they go just .500 the rest of the way, given they already have 38 wins, they'd still win 92 games. It's still way too early in the season to know if they'll actually win the World Series — hell, the Indians were literally one game away from being champs last year and couldn't pull it off — but you can forgive if any SI editors feel a little smug about their mag's prediction this summer.
     
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  6. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Stros are currently #1 in ERA (by a lot) and Runs Scored.
     
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    No Rangers thread up so:

     
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  9. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    DFA..wow. what a fall
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    Wow.
     
  11. xcrunner51

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    It'd be interesting to claim him and let him rebuild his stuff in low leverage innings (aka the Sipp treatment) but I'm guessing he'll be long gone (traded or claimed) before we get to him on waivers.
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The Twins bullpen has been so average (and then bad after the Astros series), they should take a flyer on him.
     
  13. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    Rangers series thread?
     
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    let's sign dyson. then when he gets a taste of winning, say some quote " We play the baseball the right way and that's what dyson was missing. You don't have belts in any other clubhouse."
     
  15. DaChamp

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    The guys on the MLB Network figured he was simply hurt, as his dropoff had been so significant and so sudden. Would be interesting to see how he does a year from now, if he is truly struggling with some nagging injury.
     
  16. xcrunner51

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    He's got 3 years of control left. If it's an injury holding him back, there's huge upside acquiring and letting him rehab for the rest of the year.

    EDIT* he has 3, not 4 years, of control left.
     
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    They went from 18th in bullpen ERA to dead last in 3 games.
     
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  18. NIKEstrad

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    Fun facts!

    The 2016 version of Sam Dyson (the one that saved 38 games) would be dead last on the team in K rate. His K/BB rate would rank ahead of only Mike Fiers (barely) and Tony Sipp. Among our bullpen arms (when healthy), his WHIP would only rank ahead of Luke Gregerson.

    His issue is the the long ball -- he went from giving up 0.6 per 9 innings last year (the best in the AL allowed 0.7 per 9 innings) to allowing 3.2 per 9 innings this year -- actually worse than Fiers.
     
  19. The Drake

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    I'd let him mop up in Corpus
     
  20. juicystream

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    Serve them right if we claimed him and he went Carlos Gomez. We won't claim him though as we don't have any need for him. Some team desperate for bullpen help (Nationals?) will probably claim him, though $2.5M remaining in salary is something teams hate to pickup.
     

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