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[Official] Astros @ Phillies

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. EbolaScola

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    Because I like the guy, and up until today, he had been pitching pretty well.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    That's baseball. Nothing was working for him, no location, spun up flat breaking balls, everything up in the zone. There were shades of this in his last start, but he worked out of trouble and the defense bailed him out. The defense didn't help him today.
     
  3. Surfguy

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    Here is my full speech on why Carlos Lee should go on a diet:

    "I personally believe that U.S. Astros are unable to do so because, uh, some ... people out there in our nation don't have food, and, uh, I believe that our diet like such as South African diet, and, uh, The Iraq diet everywhere like, such as and ... I believe that they should, our diet over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. Astros, er, should help South Africa and should help The Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our ball club."

    In summary, this is why Carlos Lee should go on a diet. Make sense?
     
  4. EbolaScola

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    Well of course, but that doesn't mean I can't feel sorry for the guy. Backe doesn't really have outstanding stuff, but he works efficiently and is usually able to get out of jams.
     
  5. cardpire

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    if matsui, wiggington, and nieve are all up within the next couple weeks, who gets sent down/cut?
     
  6. Legend Killer

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    So is he suppose to sacrafice this game because the they dont have a day off in two weeks. You are suppose to play to win the game. You have to give your team the best chance to win the game and when its obvious your starter doesnt have it, you owe it to your players to pull him regardless of the inning, or when the next day off is.

    Guys like Mohler, Borkowski, and Geary are on the team for a reason. Its early in the season and if they have to pitch two nights or even three in a row, it shouldn't be a problem to them.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    You, Legend Killer, and a Rookie to be Named Later.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    This is exactly completely 100% *not* how you manage a regular season game in April.
     
  9. cardpire

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    "People who think that they know when a manager should bunt and when a manager should pitch out and when a manager should make a pitching change are amateurs. People who have actually studied these issues know that the answer disappears in a cloud of untested variables." -- Bill James
     
  10. verse

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    so Buck, if matsui, wigginton and nieve are up in a week... :D
     
  11. MadMax

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    brilliant! :D
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Nice quote, however you didn't interpret it correctly.

    If you've followed baseball for awhile, you've heard countless managers explain the situation pretty much exactly as Cat did earlier. You don't take the shortview in the regular season; can't burn out the pen early; marathon not a sprint; yadda yadda yadda. *If* you've followed baseball, and put stock in what the guys who do this for a living think & do.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    Ol' Oscar is having startling difficulty in keep the ball in the yard so far this season. His stuff has looked good at times, but he seems to make 1 terrible pitch every other AB or so.
     
  14. Smacktle

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    I got beat up pretty bad when I first came in here, but they grow on ya...like a fungus!
     
  15. Surfguy

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    Oscar should go down to AAA. I mean...can his replacement do any worse? 6 HRs in 11 innings. Good Lord...give me the ball. My 40 mph fast ball will keep em off-balance...mixed in with my knuckleball.
     
  16. Smacktle

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    I read it 5 times and I still don't understand.
     
  17. Smacktle

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    Can we trade our entire bullpen for somebody elses?
     
  18. Surfguy

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    Yea...umm...don't strain yourself there. Perhaps you don't know where that speech came from originally...which I modified? It's not supposed to make sense. It just is.
     
  19. Surfguy

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    Valverde just gave up another HR. What a loser.
     
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    ouch....
     

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