i'm thinking having a great back helps you to have a good running game. seems like that would at least be a step in the right direction towards having a good running game.
Perhaps, but picking Bush (or Young for that matter) would have gone a long way toward placating the fans especially those fans shelling out big money to see an inferior product on the field at Reliant. It would have bought Kubiak and the Texans much needed time and goodwill and would have changed the dark atmosphere that is currently surrounding the franchise. This is what I see as the greatest danger becuase folks are angry because they still care but you can't expect them to do so forever. Eventually anger will turn to indifference and loss of interest. I just don't care to relive the bad old days of the Houston Oilers again. Plus, I believe that Kubiak would be using Bush differently than is Payton which would yield different results on the field for RB. It would still be an inferior product but the difference would lie in the fact that at least Bush has shown something on the field which "Invisible" has yet to do. Now the losses would probably still be there. It's not the losing that has so many folks upset - it's how BAD and inept they look while losing that has the fandom up in arms. Had the Saints lost last night it would have still been OK because even though Bush did very little on the field, the Falcons were so intent on stopping him, it opened up all sorts of possibilities for the Saints and that's a real positive. "Invisible" has yet to deliver a real positive on the field. As things now stand, it's become a perfect storm of misfortune: the Texans look beyond stupid for passing on Bush, this team has to be completely rebuilt on both sides of the ball (which will take years) and the fanbase is tottering on complete alienation. Wow, just wow...
ok, i'm looking at the early/mid 90's cowboys... and their not great back, emmitt smith. who routinely went up against buffalo and their not great back, thurman thomas in the super bowl. do you mean the patriot team that dealt a 2-rounder for corey dillon a few years ago and drafted a running back in the first round this year? the steelers and patriots have used 9 of their combined last 14 first round picks on offense and in that time, the pats gave up a 2-rounder for corey dillon. no offense, but this proves what, exactly? that the bucs' blueprint of 3 years ago is the "correct" route to nfl success? all kinds of teams have recently won SBs; ones with great backs (faulk), great qbs (brady), great D's (baltimore)... there is NO single, definitive blueprint for success in today's NFL, aside from keeping charley casserly as far away from your draft room as humanly possible.
I said this in another thread...Bush, VY, Mario...they are all busting... We should have drafted D'Brick with the first rounder... Still taken Spencer with the 3rd... And instead of Winston, we could have helped out our brutal safeties by taking Ko Simpson.
how are Bush and VY busts???? how is mario a bust for that matter??? bush has been a part of the saints offense. he hasn't been superman, but he's certainly contributing. we knew VY would be on the bench the first season. was steve mcnair a bust because he didn't play the first season? mario is the one i expected impact from quicker. that's why i'm disappointed there. but after 3 games, as critical as i've been i still can't call him a bust.
I didnt say they were busts...i said they are busting...as in currently not living up to their expectations...
Are you kidding? Houston fans called the Redskins idiots for letting him get away from them. Where is the Casserly is God crew now to rescuse CC's good name?
Those fans were just rehashing the garbage thrown out by our severely mediocre local media. Houston is still a town that gets its sports news from the local 10pm news... hell, some of the local radio guys (cough, rich lord, cough) still use Bob Allen and Gifford Neilson as their source for "breaking sports news", and to find out if the big trade will be pulled off. Then, there's the chronicle... enough said.
How are they busting? Vince has barely even played yet. Reggie is not playin spectacular, but he has had some nice plays. Mario is just a joke. He has not done anything good, he has not shown any sign that he is figuring anything out, and hes beginning to make excuses for his lack of preparation and laziness.
and look at the giants, joe morris? look at the forty niners, roger craig, ricky waters. and the patriots won two superbowls before corey dillon. the giants won a superbowl with an over the hill otis anderson, I believe that was name. pittsburg won on their defense, the patriots defense is underrated. the bucs won on their defense and that wasn't that long ago. baltimore, st louis maybe the exception to the rule.
How are they busting? Have you watched Vince play? He definitely needs more time than many anticipated. Reggie...he is an average running back at best right now. I thought he was the best thing to come around since sliced bread...not even close. He's busting. Mario...busting. On draft day, it seemed as if these 3 were cant miss prospects...they obviously may live up to the billing...but as of this second, I havent seen anything special from any of them. Therefore, they are currently busting...
i don't remember this, primarily because he had been fired and was unemployed at the time the team hired him.
Search Casserly on this message board and go back to his hire date and look at the folks who were calling casserly a great gm.
Reggie Bush very certainly is not coming close to living up to his hype. Not even close. Scatbacks struggle in this league, and quick as he is, you have to go between the tackles in the NFL. Same thing happened to Warrick Dunn when he first came out. Reggie will probably be fine in a few years, but today he's a third option reciever. Evan
its hilarious that all these announcers act like he is doing great, he has put up decent numbers, but most backs come in and have immediate impacts unless they have idiot coaches like holmgren in seattle not wanting to play alexander for ricky watters. the other thing is reggie works for new orleans becuase they have a legimate every down back. so they can get the best use of reggie bush. and the main thing about complaining about not taking bush is that obviously the defense has more holes than the offense. who cares about your offense when you are on pace to be the worst defense in history. reggie bush should be of no concern right now. the complaint is did we get the wrong defensive player, not that we need offense. the running back situation here does make the reggie bush non selection look worse, but there are so many problems I don't understand how anyone could focus on bush.
I don't think so. When you're as bad as the Texans, it's about value at that point. If they got the wrong defensive player, then they blew major value. If you were talking trade right now (only "right now"), how many draft picks would you have to couple with Mario to get Reggie Bush? On the other hand, if you had Reggie Bush but found yourself needing defense terribly, how much more help could you get in a trade when you're dangling Reggie Bush than if you're shopping Mario Williams? (again, "right now") My concern with Mario Williams at the moment is this: Is it reasonable to expect a defensive prospect to improve greatly over time? It may be a wrong one, but my perception of the NFL is that it's nothing like the NFL or MLB for rookies -- unless you're talking about a QB or maybe a WR, you're generally ready to contribute right away (see: DeMeco Ryans). Mario doesn't look like he is close... certainly not having anywhere near the impact that Julius Peppers or Shawne Merriman did as rookies. I hope that perception is wrong and this is a normal learning curve. I was surprised with the Mario Williams pick but I saw the logic and agreed with it, so I'm not distancing myself from it. So long as Mario eventually pans out, they'll be fine. However, when you consider how many Houston fans were livid about this pick with Bush and Young on the board, this has the potential to be a huge "negative branding" moment -- ala McMullen letting Nolan Ryan walk, dumping Earl Campbell to the Saints, trading Hakeem, etc. I mean if Reggie Bush becomes the superstud the media thinks he is (huge "if") and Mario is a complete bust (also a big "if"), then McNair might find it easier to sell to L.A. investors and get in line for a new franchise. On the other hand, Adrian Peterson next year may end up being the better NFL back
