i've been critical of david carr. but he was not a reach in that draft. this was not a shocking move when they took david carr. we knew it weeks ahead of time. and david was coming off an incredible year of college football. in hindsight, i'd rather have peppers...obviously. but carr wasn't the reach you're making him out to be.
I watched the game and I came away with the impression that the Saints aren't utilizing Bush properly. Can you just imagine what he'd look like in Kubiak's offensive scheme with his speed and ability to cut back and accelerate through holes? That's what makes the choice of Williams so amazingly dumbass. On Sunday, I actually saw holes and lanes open up for the RB but Dayne and Co were simply too slow to get to them. Outside of Moulds & Johnson, this offense has no speed especially coming out the backfield.
I completely disagree, while I would love to have Bush's speed and acceleration, his running style would not fit Kubiak's system. Did you see how many times Bush ran it to the outside and to the sidelines? That's the exact opposite of what Kubiak wants from his runners. While Bush ran through the tackles a couple times, he tries to cut it outside whenever possible, and as you can see from lastnight...it wasn't really working. Even the commentators were saying that NO coaches were telling Bush that putting your helmet down and getting 2-3 yards is better than trying to make a huge play everytime and not gaining or maybe even losing yards.
It's just back to how slow the defenses in the PAC 10 and WCC are. Had Reggie Bush played in the SEC, there wouldn't be this suprise. He piled up some numbers in college, knows how to play football, and will have some success in the NFL. But the fact remains that his highlights were from a combination of his skill and the relative weakness of the competition.
Hillboy's point is that the Texans don't have a running back to hit the holes as fast as Bush could. Bush has speed. He is elusive. I don't know how durable he would be pounding the middle. My point is that he hasn't been spectacular, yet. What about his running style makes him incompatiable with Kubiak's system?
I am not that familiar with the all the teams in the PAC 10 but the NFL scouts should be. Same with Mario Williams. It would seem like their evaluations would be intricate and extensive. I am starting to wonder. I thought they ran BCS like computer programs. Anyway, good point.
Hell, Bush is not impressive, stat wise, but you can't deny his speed and elusivness...Mario hasn't done much, but neither has any of the other top picks...I really thought Mario would have an immediate impact...
the longhorn's defense wasn't a) in the pac 10 or wcc, or b) slow and bush beat it to the sideline, turned it up the field and then hit another gear beating everyone to the pylon. i don't think the competition had that much of a bearing on his success, and to imply such is missing the mark. and please, don't turn this into another rehash of the rose bowl; we all know who won.
amen, brutha. if you can't find a way to fit a reggie bush into your system then, quite frankly, your system is flawed and needs to be rethought. i hate, Hate, HATE that way of thinking.
Kubiak has mentioned many times that he wants a RB that makes one cut and runs UP the field. I watched an awful lot of USC/Bush games the past 2 seasons and I can tell you that this isn't the way Bush runs. Lastnight was a pretty good example, how many times did Bush run to the sidelines? Even if the play was designed to go right up the gut, Bush will cut it outside and try to outrun everyone to the sideline. That isn't what Kubiak wants. MadMax- I'm not saying that it was right/wrong to pass on a guy because of a system, I'm tired of it as well. But the truth is that Kubiak has had UNBELIEAVABLE success with plugging in mediocre RBs and having them produce big numbers. I think his mindset is that we didn't have to spend a #1 pick and $50M+ to get production from a RB and that maybe fixing the 2nd to worst defense in the league was the right thing to do.
all other things being equal, that's likely true. all other things aren't equal. this ain't denver, arguably the best franchise in the NFL for the past 15 years.
I used to believe this, but I don't anymore. Honestly, I don't know if I ever REALLY belived it or if I was just trying to make myself feel better about passing him up.
Absolutely agree, but you kind of have to go with what you know. I don't think you can just abandon a mindset, especially one that has made you the best franchise in the NFL for the past 15 years like you said. Hopefully I'm not sending the wrong message. I questioned the pick as much as the next guy. However...I'm gonna wait for more than 3 games before I start calling busts. I just don't like posts about how we should have picked Bush because I think most could agree that we would still be a 0-3 team with him. I just want to win.
I don't think he meant it was a surpise like DAY OFF but I did not know who D Carr was before the Texans Selected him. [weeks ahead of time] I learned about him afterwards I thought they set him to Fail Easier IMO with a Fanchise DE 1st .. then ge ta QB later We should have got a Vet QB to take the initial lumps for the team instead of getting BUST-celli Rocket River
but that's not going to happen anytime soon...so in the meantime, at least be entertaining. that's what we did in the first couple of seasons. we didn't expect to win...but they were interesting from week to week. that's gone.
i agree that it put him in a tight spot. but if you didn't know who carr was, i'm guessing you don't watch much college football. he had an amazing senior season.
then coach, gary; that's what they're paying you to do. or come up with a new system. not really. fact is, the better the back, the better the system looked. bronco leading rushers since 1998: tdavis - 121.2/game; gary - 96.5/game; anderson - 92.9/game; portis - 115.8/game over his 25 starts as a bronco; droughens - 77.5/game; anderson - 67.6/game; when davis and portis were the backs, the system was much more successful. but as you can see, it's gotten progressively less successful since portis left. this year, their running game is in chaos. no system is EVER better than its talent. when anderson and gary were averaging 90/game, denver had the best OL in football.
He played in the Pac 10 and they did not goto the National Championship game so I mainly Follow the Big 12 Rocket River
I think the OLine in Denver may need a little more credit I mean . . .The Coaches did their part but . .. with OLine may not be getting the credit they deserve Rocket River
