Nothing more than a live body? The Astros are way past that point as an organization. We went out and signed Perez who is somewhat similar to Jake Marisnick. Perez has been a decently rated prospect in the past and has greatly improved the last 3 years. He showed an ability to get on base last year for Atlanta more than Jake has in his career. Perez is rated the highest possible on speed scale for scouting and is rated a plus defender at all 3 outfield positions. He has zero power, however.
Way past what point? You always sign "live bodies" (and arms) for ST / depth in the organization / competition. The difference is, you're not going to need one of them to pan out as a main contributor..instead, you're able to hope one pans out into a backup.
Yeah, you're reading a little too much into this move. Jake Marisnick's spot, and future, is not suddenly in jeopardy because Eury Perez in the organization. Perez probably won't make the Opening Day roster, and he might not even make it through the spring. But, I think there's a good chance that he'll survive the cuts, and he'll serve as an insurance policy in Fresno.
There were rumors and statements that Marisnick was available earlier in the offseason. My point is that the signing of Perez makes Jake a little more expendable, especially if Tucker is going to be the 4th outfielder. Perez does some of the same things Marisnick does. Plus defender and tremendous speed, same age. Perez doesn't have the pop that Jake does, but has become a better obp guy where Marisnick has struggled. "Nothing more than a live body" for camp has a totally different connotation than bringing in a "live arm." Eury Perez was signed as more than just fodder. Doesn't mean he'll make the club or that Marisnick will be traded, though. But, it might.
Marisnick's speed and D and personality have too much value. I'd take him over any OF on the team not named George.
He's a much better all around player than Jake. When he's healthy it's no contest. Jake is basically Adam Everett of the outfield.
Jake Marisnick is quite possibly the best defensive OF in baseball, he is an absolute monster, but his bat simply isn't tolerable. He had a spectacular starting his first 21 games, but over the next 75 games he posted a .463 OPS and was a big part of our team slump. I haven't given up on him, I think he can still learn to hit enough to be our starting CF in 2017, but we are trying to win now. Carlos Gomez is a really good player right now. So many people seem to have such a low opinion of him because he struggled here, but if you look at track record there's no real reason to expect him to struggle next year. A week before we traded for him he had a .780 OPS, and the 3 previous years he had an .819 OPS. He got here and tried too hard and got himself into a funk. When he was starting to get comfortable he got hurt. (.927 OPS in the 16 games before his injury) Even in a very down season offensively last year, he still posted a solid WAR of 2.6 in 115 games. He also posted a .933 OPS in the postseason when it mattered most. I fully expect that he posts an OPS at least in the high 700's while playing plus defense in CF.
Marisnick looked hurt. He couldn't throw accurately and he lost all power (and consequently his BB% went to nearly zero as pitchers attacked him). He had two months of great play with four months that makes Carter look consistent. He could be a very interesting player next season.
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There were very few inaccurate throws after the initial rash to start the season. He has the BEST arm in all of baseball, and it showed as the season progressed. At the same time, he was hitting way over his head to start the season as well (but agreed that he was awful beyond awful which required the Gomez trade)... but it is more than likely he's just Adam Everett in CF (which is still a player you can win with).
Not surprising... Astros either would have to pay him close to market rate now, or he's probably going to wait it out and get the escalated version of whatever market rate is now later.
I highly doubt he's close to as extreme as Everett. I don't think his hot start or hot finish is representative, but highly suspect he'll be close to average offensively. With his defense, that's a very good player. Though, Gomez, if healthy, is a great player. The healthy is a big if though.
Everett's numbers in his prime years look a lot like Marisnick's right now, better actually, so it's a pretty good comp. I agree that he can get better though. If he can maintain an OPS over .700, I would be fine going into 2017 with him as the starting CF provided we have reliable production in LF. Marisnick is good enough to carry a sub par bat, he just can't be terrible.
Everett's numbers occurred in a different era. His career best year was basically the same as Marisnick's last year adjusted for league. I doubt Marisnick has peaked offensively.
Marisnick isn't starting over a healthy Gomez... hell, he wasn't even starting over a not-healthy Gomez.
