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[Official] Astros Offseason thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. The Cat

    The Cat Member

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    So wait, your point is the Astros have had a number of low-to-mid-level signings over the years for players that have had low-to-mid-level production? Shocking. Clearly, no other team in baseball has comparable players, signings or trades to these. What a case.
     
  2. msn

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    In case you missed the plain English above, I will restate:

    *Every* team has a list like this.

    But you are free to b**** and moan about it. And we are free to tell you how very stupid such handwringing is.
     
  3. J.R.

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    lol and he will then go off to SpursTalk and tell them how idiotic Rockets/Astros fans are again
     
  4. djohn2o12

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    I guess you morons don't realize pitching wins games
     
  5. The Cat

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    I guess you don't realize money doesn't grow on trees.
     
  6. rikesh316

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    This may be small moves for some people but the Astros made a couple of dumb moves in not retaining Ron Jackson and Luis Pujols as part of their minor league staff. Jackson was the AAA hitting coaching past 3 seasons and Pujols was the manager of the CC Hooks. Jackson was the hitting coach of the World Series Champions Red Sox in 2004. Pujols is a former big league catcher who used to manage the Tigers. I don't why you wouldn't retain this two with the experience they have at the big league level.
     
  7. Major

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    How did the hitting coach of a WS team (with a great offense) end up a AAA hitting coach?
     
  8. rikesh316

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    I have no idea but his players loved him and called him Papa Jack. In 2005, they were number one in hits and RBI in all of baseball. I thought it was great to have someone with his experience in AAA but the Astros think some guy named Keith Bodie is a better fit. It may be a minor moves but I really don't understand it.
     
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    Footer is in love with Lance Berkman. That's all she ever talks about.
     
  12. msn

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    yours truly,
    the 2005 Houston Astros
    (whose pitchers, by the way, were all signed under McLane's watch)

    it's a privilege to be called "moron" by someone who posts the way you do.
     
  13. djohn2o12

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    Pettite - Wanted to stay, but left b/c Uncle D wouldn't pony up
    Clemens - Same

    Oswalt begged and pleaded for another top notch starter, and of course he didn't provide him one
     
  14. MadMax

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    so no credit for bringing them in...but all blame for them walking?? :D
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    It's not about the spending of money, it's HOW he spends. And meddles. Seemingly this gets rehashed over and over in this forum.
     
  16. djohn2o12

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    Right, spending 100 mil on that loaf named Carlos Lee wasn't wise, they need to let Tejada, and Valverde walk, let Hawkins close, sign a no. 3 starter, let the kids play, Manzella at SS, Maysonet at 2B, Johnson at 3B
     
  17. msn

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    a) that's so stupid it's laughable
    b) posters like you would be b****ing about having let Valverde walk
    c) Hawkins is a whiny b**** and I can't wait to see him wear any uniform other than one that says, "Astros".
     
  18. djohn2o12

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    No need to pay a closer around 10 million not to play every day, use it on starting pitching
     
  19. msn

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    Seriously -- LaTroy was one of those signing people like djohn were piling on the Astros about: "Stupid signing!", "another McScrooge Scrap Heap Special", "yankee reject", etc. etc.

    Now we're clamoring for him to be the closer.

    Priceless.
     
  20. MadMax

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    did you have a problem with his spending and meddling in 2004?
     

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