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[Official] Astros Offseason thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. juicystream

    juicystream Member

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    Berkman is still a great player, and would be great for Boston. I'm not trying to compare the situations, just that I think this would work out way better for Boston then trading for Andersen, and I'm willing to bet we wouldn't get a Bagwell back.
     
  2. T-Slack

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    Oswalt and Berkman had their chances in 04 and 05 but couldn't get the job done. The beginning of the end was them letting Jeff Kent go to save some pennys.
     
  3. Refman

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    Are you trying to say that Feliz plays 3B defensively as poorly as Blum?

    You might want to think about that before declaring them to be "identical players."

    Did we get better offensively? No. Defensively? A lot of baseball people would say yes.
     
  4. Bear_Bryant

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    and where would ellsbury play?
     
  5. juicystream

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    Blum isn't a bad defensive player. Feliz I think has better range, but Blum is very sure handed.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Didn't they make the World Series in 2005 without Kent?
     
  7. juicystream

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    Same team that offered Clemens an $18 million contract. A raise of $13 million. All in the name of the pennies.
     
  8. msn

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    I wonder how much the Biggio CF experiment influenced their course of action with Kent?
     
  9. MadMax

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    right field, after we trade hunter pence for prospects



    BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!! :grin:
     
  10. The Cat

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    Blum is a good defensive third baseman. Very good, some would say.
     
  11. juicystream

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    Ellsbury doesn't have the arm for right, and unfortunately lacks the power this lineup could use. He'd look best in Center, and trading Bourn. :eek:
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    Move Bourn to Right, Pence to left, and make El Caballo Grande learn to use his girth to block 1st base.

    Our outfielders would cover more range than any in baseball.
     
  13. MadMax

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    i like it!!! where do i sign?
     
  14. juicystream

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    Our pitchers values would skyrocket. Everyone would have career numbers as our outfielders ran down fly balls. In the Dome, it would have been downright scary.
     
  15. Major

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    Last year, Blum had a higher Zone Rating, lower Range Factor, and substantially fewer errors. Blum had 3 errors in 100 games at 3B. Feliz had 15 in 155 games. For their careers at 3B, they are virtually identical in fielding %, Feliz wins in Zone Rating, and Blum wins in Range Factor. Again, extremely similar players.

    There's nothing to suggest Feliz is any better defensively than Blum. Blum has been more than adequate at 3B. Last year, if he had enough games, he would have been #3 n fielding %, #11 Range Factor, and #1 in Zone Rating in the NL of all third basemen.

    But regardless, even if Feliz was better defensively, paying $5MM for a small defensive upgrade is even worse a use of that money than any of the other reasons cited thus far.
     
  16. msn

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    oh man, that's beautiful.
     
  17. No Worries

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    Right or worng, the thinking from the Astros is that Blum is not an everyday player. Feliz is.

    This might pave the way to Blum getting more starts at second, which can not be a bad thing, given the suckitude of Matsucki.
     
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    Intriguing....I'll be up for it along with Bucholtz and another prospect.

    Bourn
    Ellsbury
    Pence
    Lee
    Castro
    Feliz/Blum
    Manzella
    Matsui

    Oswalt
    Wandy
    Norris
    Bucholtz
    Paulino

    Speed, Speed and more Speed!!!
     
  19. Bear_Bryant

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    That is a quick lineup, but I don't see the Astros ever trading Berkman. I think he'll retire as an Astro. Maybe we could convince Boston to take Lee and turn him in to a first basemen?? lol
     
  20. J.R.

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    Astros hire former ESPN analyst and Rockies outfielder Eric Young.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6777937.html
     

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