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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

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    Shoulder pain for a 40 year old hard thrower isn’t encouraging

    But my want of Montgomery would also to be to keep him out of Arlington

    Ain’t gonna happen anyway, he wants more years and a JV injury isn’t going to make Crane all of the sudden think long term pitching contracts are a good idea lol
     
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  2. Marshall Bryant

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    If there isn't a match-up advantage. Designating the inning ignores the metrics. I hope he's not pulling a Musty on us.
     
  3. toby

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    Not worried. at all. Verlander is not the ace of this club. He wasn't last year and won't be this year. If anything, this is just an argument to keep on exploring the 6 man rotation and at any time we can skip a start. Honestly, I'd prefer Verlander missing a month at the beginning of the season. Shake out some other arms from last year and see where we sit. What you don't want is Verlander blowing his arm out in August.
     
  4. Tomstro

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    Great that we got Hader but we are letting our work horses walk.
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    Unfortunately there is a financial component to this that may have been a wink wink / handshake deal during contract negotiations because he gets $1M for winning Mariano Rivera Award and 8th inning guys don't win that.

    Putting that incentive in the contract then pitching him in the 8th could make waves with players association and keep future FA from wanting to come to Houston.
     
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  6. cwebbster

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    Saw JP France is having shoulder discomfort too....

    Valentines Day Massacre ;)
     
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  7. Radricky

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  8. Radricky

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    Yeah I was joking.
    I’m not a fan
     
  9. the shark

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    In order for the JV vesting clause to kick in he needs to get to 140 innings. If he Avg 6 innings per start that would require him to have 23 starts. If he misses any significant time he may not reach the 140 innings which would make him a FA.
     
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  10. BlindHog

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    Looks like we may get to see a few youngsters getting some starts this Spring. Should be interesting.
     
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  11. Snake Diggit

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    Contracts I’d be cool with for remaining free agents:

    Snell $80M/3yrs with opt outs after each year
    Montgomery $110M/4yrs
    Chapman $150M/6yrs opt out after 2026
    Bellinger $70M/2yrs opt out after 2024
    Kemp $1.5M/1yr
    Pham $4M/1yr plus pa incentives
    Belt $6M/1yr
    Duvall $8M/1yr
    Grossman $2M/1yr
    Martinez $18M/1yr
    Rosario $12M/1yr
    Ryu $12M/1yr
    Lorenzen $8M/1yr
    German $6M/1yr
    Velasquez $5M/1yr plus incentives
    Stanek $1M/1yr
    Boyd $6M/1yr plus incentives
    Alexander $4M/1yr
    Hand $3M/1yr plus incentives
    Hill $2M/1yr

    NRI: Mondesi, Solano, Meadows, Smith, Vogelbach, Choi, Cooper, Lewis, Escobar, Peralta, Gurriel, Ford, Miller, Bradley, Votto, Naquin, Moustakas, Greinke, Keuchel, Nelson, Martin, Rucinski
     
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  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Every pitcher has some level of arm "discomfort" every spring.

    Unless you start hearing stuff like "MRI" and "shut down" there's no reason to really worry.
     
  13. Redfish81

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    Loving my Mariners pick to win the division even more every time McTaggart tweets.

    :(
     
  14. Jose Cuervo

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    We gambled on JV to win us a championship last year and we lost. It was a good gamble at the time, but now we have to suffer the consequences.
     
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  15. Marshall Bryant

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    In a close game, you have left handed batters (who do worse against LH pitchers) coming up and RH batters following them. The analytics say pith Hader in the 8th in THIS situation and now we're supposed to ignore it so he can make make an impression on ignorant voters?
     
  16. Hemingway

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    Chill out sir. Nothing is written in stone before the season even starts. It is worthwhile to work it out with your two best relievers in advance, but if that is not saying that they can’t change their minds. We are not talking Dusty here.
     
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  17. sealclubber1016

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    A couple of small pieces of bad news, news that may not even mean anything, and some people have guns in their mouths.

    I really don't get how some people operate with that mindset, but whatever. Thank god we're almost back to baseball.
     
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  18. J_Hunter_1977

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    Verlander will be fine, but sign Snell anyway.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    The first time that happens in a real game you're allowed to be upset about it...deal?

    I might be too, btw.
     
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  20. BigM

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    All I’ve read is a bunch of nothing so far. It even says his shoulder resolved itself. Sounds like this isn’t a problem.
     
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