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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. BlindHog

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    There is no insult to an honest offer. Crane has been open and above board about his unwillingness to make a contract longer than five years. It is a legitimate limitation and is something that avoids unnecessary risk to the organization. To characterize that as insulting is below the belt argumentative commentary.
     
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  2. BlindHog

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    No.
     
  3. panamamyers

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    How does a .721 ops as a 27 year old in AAA grab you?
     
  4. RKREBORN

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    Hearing rumblings of the Rangers
     
  5. Wulaw Horn

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    Sure. Thats why I said Snell and Bellinger if you could get them both on 6/150 type contracts (which I think you could), trade Meyers, Urquidy and France to get off the salaries of Graveman, Montero and LMJ and the thing pays for itself, more or less, in year 1 and that is your Tucker and Framber replacement after 2025 (If Bregman walks which I suspect you’d be under CBT tax in 25). Unfortunately, Crane stopped taking my calls but this would be the greatest Astro juggernaught ever in 24, 25 would be freaking awesome too, especially if Dezenzo is good, and the rotation in 26 is Snell, Javier, Brown, Garcia and you still have room to bring back JV to chase 300 if he’s been effective or go out and sign another quality starting pitcher if guys like Whitley, Arenghetti and some others don’t develop as MOR type guys.
     
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  6. Nick

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    This is why it’s best not to get emotionally attached to any fringe prospect or recently promoted player that has a bit of success at first.

    But it was a nice run when people were clamoring for him to get more AB’s during the 2022 World Series…
     
  7. BMoney

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    Tucker has performed better than Bagwell in the postseason. Come on, now. We would not call Tucker clutch and not on par with the other franchise cornerstones, but let's not get carried away that losing him wouldn't hurt the Astros chances significantly.
     
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  8. MadMax

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    Match made in Heaven
     
  9. No Worries

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    Unlikely.

    Bauer's best chance would be a playoff team who loses their ace for the season during ST.
     
  10. IdStrosfan

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    A player's worth is based on what someone is willing to pay and how it affects the teams in question.

    If a team has personnel who can supply similar production at a fraction of the cost its probably not worth it. If they don't and his addition drastically improves the team then he is probably worth it.

    He will get a huge offer from someone. For that kind of commitment, a WS appearance or better is likely required.

    If he goes to the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets or Phillies is probably 2+ and at least 1 win maybe even 3 appearances and 2 wins.

    A team like the Marlins or Pirates would likely be happy with an appearance.

    As for the Astros it's more complicated. If they stop going to ALCS's then it was probably a mistake to let him go.

    But until that happens fans will just keep thinking the team will continue to reload on the fly
     
  11. utgrad97

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    Bregman's slugging compared to Chapman is significantly helped by his batting average. When you look at their ISOs, Chapman is better and has been for a while. That is my whole point, if Chapman is somehow available next off-season and you could get him for a 2/3 or 3/4 of what it takes to resign Bregman, you are coming out ahead because at this point in their careers they are very similar players.
     
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  12. Joe Joe

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    On who cares, People that bring up Bagwell and Tucker's postseason record, those that respond to it, and those who care enough to respond to it trying to show there isn't a reason to care about it.
     
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  13. The Beard

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    In 2021 his 874 Playoff OPS was second only to Yordan

    He is a very streaky hitter so my guess is if he plays in the playoffs each of the next 8 years, it's gonna be a mixed bag like it has been so far
     
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  14. The Beard

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    Also very early in Tuckers career, so it's a tough situation to compare
     
  15. The Beard

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    Lol, not trying to be argumentative at all

    I'm just saying a guy that is likely expecting to get something around 10/300 could consider it an insult to get an offer of 5/140.

    In the real mlb world that we live in right now, that wouldn't be an honest offer. It would be one that if Crane made, Crane himself would know it has no chance of being accepted. That's what i was responding to and why I said it could be considered insulting. Sheesh
     
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  16. Wulaw Horn

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    I view that as an insulting offer. Crane goes to the fans and says we offered him 30 a year and he didn’t take it, knowing it’s not even the basis to be considered.
     
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  17. IdStrosfan

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    Chapman is a top 8-12 third baseman over the next 5 years so getting him as Bregman's replacement prevents the team from developing a hole in the lineup and roster.

    So that would be about as good as the team could hope for if Alex doesn't come back, but signing him would all but guarantee he doesn't.

    Alex is a top 4-6 third baseman for the next 5 years.

    Chapman is a special defender and he gets extra base hits slughtly more than Alex but he is without question inferior at every other aspect of the game.

    Both have been healthy and played 90+% of their teams games the last 2 seasons so let's compare those:

    Age: Alex 30, Matt 31
    bWAR Alex 9.4, Matt 7.9
    fWAR Alex 9.8, Matt 7.7
    OB%: Alex .364, Matt .327
    BB%: Alex 13.0%, Matt 10.8%
    K%: Alex 11.9%, Matt 27.9%
    SLG Alex 447, Matt .429
    OPS+ Alex 127, Matt 112
    wRC+ Alex 131, Matt 114
    PA/R Alex 7.0, Matt 8.0
    PA/RBI Alex 7.2, Matt 9.2
    AB/XBH Alex 9.9, Matt 9.3
    AB/HR Alex 24.4 Matt 23.8

    What really stands out is that Chapman strikes out nearly 2 1/2 times Alex.

    Chapman would be a solid replacement, but every little thing nickel and diming a bit less means there will be a big reduction in overall production from 3B.
     
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  18. The Beard

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    Good post

    I just wouldn’t want to spend whatever money we have available on him, but I’ve never been a big fan of high K low on base guys. The more on base guys you have in your lineup the tougher it is for the opposing pitcher to navigate

    I would prefer the Giants sign Chapman and we make a trade for Davis
     
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  19. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Maldy has more career homers in the postseason despite half the number of years of making the postseason... and not advancing deeper in the 90s is kind of Bagwell's fault
     
  20. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    They did temporarily fix Josh Hamilton...
     

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