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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. SKYGODZ187

    SKYGODZ187 Member

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    I would sign Rodon for 5yr 120m witha team option on the last 2 years.



    Then load up
     
  2. YOLO

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    good thing it isn't up to you
     
  3. Mr.Pringles

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    thats a big NO.
     
  4. Wulaw Horn

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    I’d be happy to make you a bet of any amount and kind that you want that Rodon will be a better value for his next contract than JV. Name the terms.
    I have a ton of appreciation for JV. I just would not in any way shape or form give him a 3/130M contract. At 24M per for Rodon you can get 2 premier bats. At 43 for JV you can get 1 decent bag.
    Rodon/Contreras/Abreu is better than JV/ $12M bat.
     
  5. J.R.

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    Look at JV's playoff and World Series stats. Then get back to this thread.
     
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  7. Mr.Pringles

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    Abreu is a $12 mil/yr bat. JV >Rodon and we dont need a catcher, especially one that sucks calling games.
     
  8. Yordan The Great

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    Again

    15-5 3.04 through the ALCS

    His troubles only begin in the World Series. Let's not try to generalize his "playoff" issues.

    He's helped 2 teams get to the WS a grand total of 5 times.

    For the person who has said Rodon hasn't done jack isn't exactly wrong.
     
  9. YOLO

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    Better value is relative. Your definition of it is obviously extremely puzzling


    There’s only one thing that matters JV is clearly better than Rodon. Your assumption of rodon being more trustworthy is straight comedy
     
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  10. YOLO

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    Look at Rodon’s appearances. Then try to talk
     
  11. Wulaw Horn

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    Abreu is an 18M a year bat. Contreras is your DH 100 games a year and your catcher 50 games a year.
     
  12. Wulaw Horn

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    $ per war. That’s it. That’s the value the entire industry ascribes to players. If I’m comically wrong make the bet.
    the last time I was told I was an idiot on this board was when I said to trade Wood bc he would never be a part of a winning rockets organization and his value wasn’t ever going to be higher. I got roundly mocked and ridiculed and then I cashed a $500 winner on here. You make this bet with me and I will laugh and take your money too.
     
  13. YOLO

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    Sure you did. If wood has to be your defense to make yourself look better it means nothing to me.don’t act like you were in some boat by yourself. it has nothing to do with this conversation. Wood stinks. Who tf cares

    JV is vastly better than rodon. That’s what matters
     
  14. Mr.Pringles

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    Fine Abreu might be 18M but paying 80M for a catcher is not what the Astros do.
     
  15. IBTL

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    Lol no way in hell. You on crack.
     
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  16. The Drake

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    You’ll learn to love him
     
  17. Snake Diggit

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    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/offseason-outlook-houston-astros-13.html

    No revelations but solid summary:
    Houston has needs at 1B, LF/DH, and maybe C and LHRP.

    They have a surplus of SP and a relatively weak farm.

    They should have between $30M and $50M available to add to the 2023 payroll.

    The more I think about it the more I think they’ll have to be smart and let Verlander go. They need 2 bats to lengthen their lineup and if the spend on Verlander they likely won’t have the money leftover to adequately address those holes.

    Current roster prediction:
    2B Altuve
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Bregman
    RF Tucker
    1B TBD (Abreu, Bell, or Gurriel)
    LF TBD (Happ, Benintendi, Conforto, Haniger, or Brantley)
    CF McCormick
    C Maldonado
    Bench: Dubon, TBD (Lee, Diaz), Hensley, Meyers
    Rotation: Valdez, Javier, McCullers, Garcia, Urquidy, Brown
    Bullpen: TBD (Hand, Chafin, Rogers, Moore, Norris), Maton, Stanek, Montero, Neris, Abreu, Pressly
     
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    It feels like if Crane wants Verlander badly enough, Verlander is likely going to go that much over the tax.
     
  19. The Juice

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    Agreed. I'd say Tucker's absolute floor should be 10/212 which is what Austin Riley got. Both are roughly at the same service time and their ages are three months apart. Tucker's been worth nearly one more win than Riley in 310 less PA. I would also bet on Tucker being a serviceable defender for longer than Riley.
     
  20. jayfree

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    Here's my take on keeping Verlander. He stretches the rotation perfectly. We have McCullers going aginst other teams #3 and Javier against other teams #4. Without Verlander at the top then most likely McCullers goes against other teams #2. And if he goes down for a bit then there's an issue.

    Matchup with Verlander:
    #1 Verlander
    #2 Framber
    #3 McCullers
    #4 Javier
    #5 Garcia/Brown

    Matchup without Verlander
    #1 Framber
    #2 McCullers
    #3 Javier
    #4 Garcia
    #5 Brown/Urquidy

    Until Brown can prove himself worthy of a good rotation guy, McCullers can prove he an pitch effectively and stay healthy and Javier can prove he can pitch an entire season as a starter in the #3 slot then I'm not sold on that rotation.

    Bats can go quiet in the post season more so than good pitching gets rocked.
     
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