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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    From what I can gather, Osuna is in denial about needing TJS, so there is no way Houston tenders him what would be a $10M salary.

    I don’t necessarily think Houston needs to add an established closer, as I think Pressly, Javier, and Paredes all could be elite RP who could potentially close. But I do think there is a need for an established veteran in the pen (in addition to Smith, Pruitt, and Pressly). RP would be 4th or 5th on my list of priorities, but it is a need.

    Maldonado is a very good catcher and in a 60 game season he was fine as the everyday guy. But he is not a very good hitter, and in a normal 162 game season the backup will likely play 60+ games, plus you don’t want to be totally screwed if Maldonado gets hurt. There are a lot of really good 2nd tier catchers available who would serve as excellent complements/insurance to Maldy.
     
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    I think you would have to give up more to get these guys. I really like Mancini if he's recovered from cancer. (Hope this happened.)

    Any idea what Cobb's spin rates look like?
     
  3. Snake Diggit

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    Assuming Pruitt and Smith are healthy and ready to go, I quite like the way Houstons bullpen is structured even without adding:

    2 young arms who have been pretty effective but should probably be limited to low leverage (Scrubb, Taylor)

    2 veteran specialists (Raley, Smith)

    1 veteran multi-inning guy (Pruitt)

    2 young arms who have potential to be elite relievers (Paredes, Javier)

    1 established elite reliever (Pressly)
     
  4. Dalton Pence

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    I agree on your point on needing a backup catcher. Garneau wasn’t the answer, and I’m not sure Garrett Stubbs is as well...thought Dusty may elect to give him a shot. The Mets declined Chirinos’ option yesterday
     
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    He has good spin on his curve but poor spin on his FB. He was pretty bad last year in underlying stats. Maybe not a great target after all.

    my assumption in that hypothetical trade was Cobbs contract is well underwater, and Severino and Santander overall haven’t been that valuable. I also assumed the Orioles really like the pitching prospects in Houston’s system. I could be way off.

    https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/alex-cobb-502171?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb
     
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  6. SamCassell

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    Cobb's making $15m next year and hasn't been a quality pitcher since 2014. I'd like to get more than a 4.87 FIP and 6.5 K/9 for that price.
     
  7. Marteen

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    Bauer will be too expensive, but he is exactly what this team needs. A guy that dominant and can go deep into games will make a huge difference if you have the right lineup behind him. Boy, I wish.
     
  8. Joe Joe

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    I'm not familiar with Santander, but my initial reaction is Garcia probably isn't moved in a trade that Cobb and Severino are the two first names listed.
     
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    Santander hit 11 HR in 37 G this season. He plays a decent RF. In roughly a seasons worth of PA since he broke into the league he’s been a roughly average hitter and slightly below average fielder. If you think his 2020 offense is legit then he’s a good everyday RF, otherwise he’s not very valuable. His ISO will come down but I do think he would be a good enough addition. Severino profiles similarly. That prospect package may be too heavy.
     
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    Paredes is easily our closer moving forward.
     
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  12. AznH-TownFan

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    I love what I saw in Javier this season. I hope he can earn a spot in the rotation as a 5 or 6. He’s doesn’t have to eat up too many innings during the regular season and be a dominant long reliever for the playoff.
     
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    Liam Hendricks would be my choice if we can sign the guy. Not sure we can trust and watch Pressley in a full season.
     
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    Save money for Correa.
     
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    Id trade pressly. Paredes is your closer. The difference between pressly and garcia or torres or someone else they plug in will be minimal imo relative to the difference in cost. I wouldn't look to add any relievers.
     
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    Why trade Pressly when he can go back to being the set up man?
     
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    Thanks for putting this into context. I really like the idea of this bullpen. Get a reclamation project starter (Minor or someone like that) and we should be solid.
     
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    How expensive is expensive? More than Springer Money?
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    If Santander is good, he would be only guy in that deal that is worthy of having Garcia included. Considering Garcia still has options, he's likely a very valuable part of the Astros team as a replacement starter.

    I'd much rather Astros sign a couple of OFs than trade a guy like Garcia.
     

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