Wandy is too inconsistent for my taste. If the Sros really want to rebuild they would of traded him for any prospects as possible
Dude has posted a 3.6 or less ERA for 3 consecutive seasons with plenty of strikeouts, and he's 31. By comparison, Myers is 30 and threw up 4.6 and 4.8 ERAs for the 2 previous seasons before this one, and he just signed a new extension. Who's inconsistant?
Wandy is pretty consistent but he does have rough patches much like the first few months of last year. Overall, I am okay with 3-25 million but my biggest issue is that Wandy has great value right now, I would have looked to move him before his BIG payday coming next offseason, although 8 million a year seems reasonable.
Completely agree. I have no problem with Wandy getting $8/year. My problem is that we're giving it to him. We should trade him immediately, while his value is so high. We could get some midlevel prospects in return. Maybe we trade him at the deadline?
I was in favor of trading him before last season. I continue to be all for trading him. To rebuild the farm system, you have to sell high, not wait until a player is making a substantial contract, has health concerns, is aging, or seeing a drop in production.
Yep, feel the exact same way. I do find it interesting Bourn/Pence aren't getting deals besides 1 yr contracts. I know it's their philosophy but they are considered the foundation of the Stros, just found it interesting.
Wandy is worth more than that. Jorge De La Rosa signed a new deal worth 3 years/$32 million. Wandy is a better pitcher.
Wandy is worth more than Jorge de la Rosa. *Neither* of them merit $8M per. But of course, if you ask me, the whole league is overpaid.
I guess it depends on how you you view it. Wandy at $8M is a bargain for his production compared to what most top end starters get.
Astros Working On Long-Term Deal With Wandy As for Wandy, the left-hander will be 32 in early January and is entering his last arbitration year, which means he'll be a free agent at Age 33 after next season. First, how do you value his performance? Wandy is unique in that he's had two breakout seasons after he turned 30, posting WARs of 4.0 and 3.6 according to FanGraphs. That's in stark contrast to his WAR totals the previous two seasons, which hovered right around 2.6. Either way, that WAR total would be pretty expensive on the open market. FanGraphs has his value at 14.6 million for 2010 and 17.9 million for 2009. Since he earned 2.6 million in 2009 and 5 million in 2010, it's safe to say he's a bargain. If Wandy is a FA this offseason, I would not be surprised if he landed a four year contract worth $50 to $60 million.
probably too old school, but for me... #1 = $10-15M depending on how much "#1" he really is #2 = $8-12M, again, depending on his actual performance #3 = $5-8M #4,5 = just be happy you're in the bigs, buddy. I know Wandy's last couple years have been very impressive. But for his whole body of work, he still doesn't strike me as a #1 or #2. Too many swoons. I don't mind $8M for Wandy, but anything over that for me is overspending. And if the market sets the value of pitchers (or any other position) too high, I *do* understand that if you're going to compete sometimes you have to eat that too high salary -- but that does not mean those guys' actually merit that much. It means too many owners are throwing money around foolishly.
Tulowitzki is near a 7 year, $134 million extension, I think current baseball contracts and your above numbers are slightly different.
(Tulolwitzki's not a pitcher, but I see what you're saying...) I wouldn't be surprised. But I stand by this statement: "And if the market sets the value of pitchers (or any other position) too high, I *do* understand that if you're going to compete sometimes you have to eat that too high salary -- but that does not mean those guys' actually merit that much. It means too many owners are throwing money around foolishly."
Ed Wade denied this today: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...0576&vkey=news_hou&c_id=hou&partnerId=rss_hou
