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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. Jake Tower

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  2. sealclubber1016

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    Once we traded for Paredes, hard, hard pass on Arenado.

    Given his offensive trajectory, I'm not even confident he will be a demonstrably better player than Dubon, never mind his salary. Hell I would rather just give the 3B job to Dezenzo come what may.
     
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    The Cards have to agree to pay all his deferred money for it to work because he's owed 51 million over the next 3 years.

    One a side note, this is why you don't give players long term contracts. He was amazing until he wasn't.
     
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  4. Htown Stros

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    Paredes has never played the OF either (not even in the minors) and is one of the slower players in the league.
     
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    Players not on the 40 man don't count against the cap. It would still be nice to get someone to take his contract on but it's not affecting the club's ability to sign players and stay under the tax level.
     
  6. Htown Stros

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    Gorman was worse than Altuve defensively at 2B last season.
     
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  7. SamCassell

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    The Montero contract definitely counts against the CBT.

    What I am uncertain of, is whether his salary is even tradeable. He was cut, cleared waivers. Astros stuck with his entire figure, just like they are stuck paying Jose Abreu's deal. I'm not sure the fact that he came back to pitch in the minors means that he's under that old contract, anymore. I think a team trading for Montero would take on his minor league deal.
     
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    Just realized, Astros are still paying $12.5 mil a year to Greinke in deferred money until 2026
     
  9. No Worries

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    Montero's salary has got to count, since the Astros are still paying it.

    Montero and the Astros could settle on a payout for the remainder of the contract, but I see no reason for Montero to ever take less than the contract's face value.
     
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    My bad. I read it wrong. Either way, we're stuck with him short of a buyout.
     
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  12. Nook

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    The Cards are willing to eat a decent amount of his contract, because they want out of any deals beyond next season. They wanted to trade Contreras and Gray as well, but they refused to waive their no trade clauses.

    I don't like giving long term contracts either - for that very reason.

    Either way - short of a collapse, a trade for Arenado does not kill the Astros
     
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  13. Nook

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    The Astros have been trying to trade Pressly since the season ended.

    Last year at the break he requested a trade.

    The Astros wanted to trade Pressly EARLY in the free agent process but Pressly wanted an extension from whomever traded for him.

    There was not enough interest in Pressly for anyone to give him an extension --- then after all of the key free agents were signed, Pressly expressed some interest in a trade to a team not far from his home travel-wise.

    So now Pressly is dealt - but almost all the Astros targets in FA are signed.

    Bregman was and is a separate matter. They wanted to move Pressly before trying to sign Bregman - but that doesn't mean Bregman is for sure an Astro. The Astros are talking to other teams about deals and Bregman's agent is still trying to get a better offer from teams interested in Bregman.

    Also, there was some genuine concern from Murphy about Pressly's effectiveness going forward --
     
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    Yeah, I saw it already. Based on the fact Nook is saying we are talking to the Cardinals again, it appears you’re right. Probably just traded one of our better relievers and going to end up with some bum.
     
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    Oh I had no doubt you’re gonna keep posting. And I don’t care if you do. I was merely pointing out the possibilities on your approach, and none of them are flattering to you. Fully realizing you likely dont care, my post was really for the entertainment of others.
     
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    So, they are not going to offer a new contract to bregs with more money?
     
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    I wouldn't.
    As it is, if he comes back we are going to have to put Altuve in a position he has never played.
    That all of the adjusting you should get.
    He is a luxury not a need.

    I'm of the opinion to go get a player that has actually played the OF and is league average with upside that keeps us a shade under the CBT.
     
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    At worst, he's an average bat (101 ops+ last season) with a gold glove. He also doesn't strike out much. 17 million a year isn't much of a gamble unless he goes Jose Abreu on us. He's only 33 and hasn't had a serious concussion. I swear Abreu's issues are due to his concussion.
     
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    Are we sure, because coming into last season he was at worst a good bat, and the year before he was a great bat. Now we're confident he stabilizes at average?
     
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    I mean anything can happen. Chas was an above average bat until he wasn't. Perennial All-star players don't normally fall off a cliff at 33. Yes they are worst but the don't normally become below average.
     

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