It may be, but I'm talking about a first year big payday and much lower the rest of the contract (acting like a signing bonus but not)
For CBT purposes, the only way the AAV is reduced at all is if the money is paid after the contract ends and it is adjusted to the estimated purchase power it will have when it is paid out. If a 5 yr $100M contract is scheduled to be paid out in 10 years, and then will only buy what $80M will buy today, the contract is determined to have a AAV of $16M, not $20M If money is paid anytime before the contract ends, including as a signing bonus it is calculated at 100%.
As of January 19, 2025, the most recent comprehensive financial data for Major League Baseball (MLB) teams, including revenues and payrolls, is from the 2024 season. Here’s an overview of the available information: Team Revenues and Payrolls in 2024: • New York Mets: • Revenue: Approximately $305.62 million • Payroll: Approximately $314.75 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 103% • New York Yankees: • Revenue: Approximately $679 million • Payroll: Approximately $308.57 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 45.4% • Los Angeles Dodgers: • Revenue: Approximately $549 million • Payroll: Approximately $240.24 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 43.8% • Chicago Cubs: • Revenue: Approximately $506 million • Payroll: Approximately $229.57 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 45.4% • Philadelphia Phillies: • Revenue: Approximately $458 million • Payroll: Approximately $246.30 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 53.8% • Texas Rangers: • Revenue: Approximately $425 million • Payroll: Approximately $225.55 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 53.1% • St. Louis Cardinals: • Revenue: Approximately $372 million • Payroll: Approximately $175.93 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 47.3% • Houston Astros: • Revenue: Approximately $445 million • Payroll: Approximately $251.06 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 56.4% • Milwaukee Brewers: • Revenue: Approximately $320 million • Payroll: Approximately $114.22 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 35.7% • Pittsburgh Pirates: • Revenue: Approximately $289 million • Payroll: Approximately $84.05 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 29.1% • Oakland Athletics: • Revenue: Approximately $241 million • Payroll: Approximately $62.13 million • Percentage of Revenue Spent on Payroll: 25.8% Notes: • The New York Mets’ payroll exceeded their revenue, indicating an operating loss, which reflects owner Steve Cohen’s aggressive investment strategy. • The Houston Astros allocated the highest percentage of their revenue to payroll among the listed teams, spending approximately 56.4%. • In contrast, the Oakland Athletics spent the least proportion of their revenue on payroll, at about 25.8%. These figures illustrate the varying financial strategies across MLB teams, with some investing heavily in player salaries relative to their revenues, while others maintain more conservative payroll expenditures.
the Scrooge Index provides insight into payroll spending relative to revenue, it doesn’t account for other significant expenses such as stadium operations, debt servicing, and non-player personnel salaries. Based on the available data, here is a list of Major League Baseball (MLB) teams ranked by their estimated revenues for the 2024 season, along with their corresponding payrolls and the percentage of revenue allocated to player salaries (Scrooge Index): 1. New York Yankees • Revenue: $720 million • Payroll: $376 million • Scrooge Index: 52% 2. Los Angeles Dodgers • Revenue: $637 million • Payroll: $428 million • Scrooge Index: 67% 3. Boston Red Sox • Revenue: $557 million • Payroll: $224 million • Scrooge Index: 40% 4. Houston Astros • Revenue: $544 million • Payroll: $265 million • Scrooge Index: 49% 5. Chicago Cubs • Revenue: $541 million • Payroll: $235 million • Scrooge Index: 43% 6. Atlanta Braves • Revenue: $521 million • Payroll: $294 million • Scrooge Index: 56% 7. Philadelphia Phillies • Revenue: $486 million • Payroll: $272 million • Scrooge Index: 56% 8. Texas Rangers • Revenue: $473 million • Payroll: $255 million • Scrooge Index: 54% 9. San Francisco Giants • Revenue: $465 million • Payroll: $251 million • Scrooge Index: 54% 10. New York Mets • Revenue: $441 million • Payroll: $450 million • Scrooge Index: 102% 11. San Diego Padres • Revenue: $427 million • Payroll: $229 million • Scrooge Index: 54% 12. St. Louis Cardinals • Revenue: $422 million • Payroll: $216 million • Scrooge Index: 51% 13. Los Angeles Angels • Revenue: $407 million • Payroll: $189 million • Scrooge Index: 46% 14. Toronto Blue Jays • Revenue: $383 million • Payroll: $235 million • Scrooge Index: 61% 15. Seattle Mariners • Revenue: $374 million • Payroll: $163 million • Scrooge Index: 44% 16. Arizona Diamondbacks • Revenue: $331 million • Payroll: $219 million • Scrooge Index: 66% 17. Washington Nationals • Revenue: $323 million • Payroll: $134 million • Scrooge Index: 41% 18. Milwaukee Brewers • Revenue: $317 million • Payroll: $158 million • Scrooge Index: 50% 19. Baltimore Orioles • Revenue: $310 million • Payroll: $131 million • Scrooge Index: 42% 20. Minnesota Twins • Revenue: $309 million • Payroll: $161 million • Scrooge Index: 52% 21. Chicago White Sox • Revenue: $308 million • Payroll: $125 million • Scrooge Index: 41% 22. Colorado Rockies • Revenue: $305 million • Payroll: $167 million • Scrooge Index: 55% 23. Cincinnati Reds • Revenue: $303 million • Payroll: $119 million • Scrooge Index: 39% 24. Cleveland Guardians • Revenue: $295 million • Payroll: $140 million • Scrooge Index: 48% 25. Detroit Tigers • Revenue: $294 million • Payroll: $106 million • Scrooge Index: 36% 26. Pittsburgh Pirates • Revenue: $287 million • Payroll: $118 million • Scrooge Index: 41% 27. Tampa Bay Rays • Revenue: $280 million • Payroll: $89 million • Scrooge Index: 32% 28. Kansas City Royals • Revenue: $276 million • Payroll: $162 million • Scrooge Index: 59% 29. Miami Marlins • Revenue: $274 million • Payroll: $117 million • Scrooge Index: 43% 30. Oakland Athletics • Revenue: $241 million • Payroll: $81 million • Scrooge Index: 34% These figures illustrate the varying financial strategies across MLB teams, with some allocating a higher percentage of their revenues to player payrolls than others. It’s important to note that these numbers are estimates, as MLB teams typically do not publicly disclose detailed financial information.
Starting to feel like a youth movement now over the next two or three years won’t be terrible. Get a few years into the Dodgers contracts and then go full guns.
Not to sound like a pessimist but the Dodgers aren’t going to stop spending once they get deeper into their long term contracts. It’s going to take major changes in the CBA to fix this issue and I guarantee you the players association loves what the Dodgers are doing. I can just about guarantee a major work stoppage is coming once the CBA ends.
The Astros won their WS with fractional payrolls relative to some other teams. Even a super team will lose to a decent team 35-40% of the time. The issue will be when the Yankees, Mets, and 2-3 other teams all are spending like the Dodgers and it’ll eventually lead to 2nd/3rd tier teams not even being able to make the playoffs.
MLB’s competitive balance is skewed when teams like the Dodgers secure $334M annually from their TV deal, surpassing the Brewers’ entire 2023 revenue of $320M.
They need to fix the calculation of these contracts for CBT purposes. It makes zero sense how you can give someone a massive signing bonus and it’s calculated the same as if you gave it throughout the life of the contract…but if you have a payment made after the contract it is calculated used NPV lowering the CBT hit. Either they need to just take the AAV based on the years regardless when it’s paid or the entire contract need to be calculated using NPV.
They are just showing off now. As of January 19, 2025, the projected payrolls for Major League Baseball (MLB) teams for the 2025 season are as follows: 1. Los Angeles Dodgers: $354 million 2. Philadelphia Phillies: $308 million 3. New York Yankees: $303 million 4. New York Mets: $277 million 5. Houston Astros: $244 million 6. Texas Rangers: $235 million 7. Toronto Blue Jays: $239 million 8. San Diego Padres: $243 million 9. Atlanta Braves: $217 million 10. Arizona Diamondbacks: $215 million
I think it might be When Tanner Scott’s deal is made official, the Dodgers’ luxury-tax payroll for 2025 will exceed $375 million. https://clutchpoints.com/dodgers-ne...-away-phillies-yankees?utm_source=chatgpt.com
I mean- the dodgers are in the NL. It’s highly likely we won’t ever play them in the playoffs again during this run, and if we do end up playing them we will both be in the World Series and have a better chance of winning (regardless of their team qualify) than the 2019 nationals had, to pick a totally random example. it’s not that big a deal. Snake has pointed out what the actual big deal is.
I disagree. Dude was a top tier prospect who decided to screw it all up by getting high. His remedy? To stop getting high. Don't think that is all that inspirational to commend a drug addict.
The Astros are 5th in baseball in payroll- and yet are $100,000,000 behind the Dodgers before they gave their new closer 4/72. Imagine if the Astros could add $118,000,000 to their payroll to match the Dodgers…. Bregman at 3rd, Tucker still in RF…. Walker at 1st….Soto in LF? Burnes of Fried on the mound?
