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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. punkoholic

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    Bichette was awful last year but pretty good the years prior. What would the Jays ask for in return?


    Also off topic. They say every team should be in on him due to him being an international free agent but will the Astros make a attempt at Roki Sasaki??? If yes, will they have a presentation ready like other teams or not that strong of a interest.
     
  2. punkoholic

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    Hopefully soon lol. People said his mechanic seems different from before. Hopefully it helps his elbows.
     
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  3. htownrox1

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    I’ve heard this story before.
     
  4. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    Waiting for a setback in 2 days...
     
  5. cmlmel77

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    But less than we deserve. (Seriously, thanks for the behind the scenes stuff @Nook. Very interesting … especially when about the choir boys, and when it shows there is a lot more going into team selection and trades than many of us may see publicly).
     
  6. GOATuve

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    Positive but I won't hold my breath
     
  7. raining threes

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    Love truth tellers.
     
  8. 13 in 33

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    That would be a very interesting scenario. Although if it was Arenado at $15M/year vs Santander at $20M/year, I think I'd prefer to have Santander's switch hitting slugging in the lineup for more balance. If we miss out on Breggy, then I suppose both could be an option too.
     
  9. Snake Diggit

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    Any 2 of the following would be great:
    Bregman
    Arenado
    Goldschmidt
    Pederson

    Turner, Canha, France, Verdugo, Winker, and Solano would be ok consolation options.

    The team’s glaring weakness is a shallow, weak lineup against RHP. Their secondary weakness is a farm short on potential stars, which is why it doesn’t make sense to give up a 2nd round pick to sign one of the non-superstar QO free agents. They need 2 bats who crush righties and don’t cost a draft pick.
     
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  10. IdStrosfan

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    I don't think Pederson is a fit because he is a butcher in the OF and DH needs to be saved for Yordan/Altuve./Diaz

    Possibly available, 120 or better wRC+ in 2024, can play OF or 3b.

    Marcel Ozuna - same DH risk issue.
    Pederdon - see above
    Carlos Correa - interesting thought.
    Christian Yelich- terrible contract, back issues
    Pavin Smith - is he 2023 Chas?
    Jonah Bride - will be 29 and never had 300 PAs
    Byron Buxton- serious injury risk, serious talent
    Jurickson Profar - career year will cost $$$
    Masataka Yoshida- unplayable vs LHP
    Anthony Santander - good, expensive option
    Teoscas Hernandez - see Santander, Anthony
    Bryan Reynolds - big trade cost
    Brendan Donovan- see Reynolds, Bryan
    Wilyer Abreu - see Donovan, Brendan
    Alex Bregman - obvious fit. But expensive
    Alec Burleson - DH risk.
    Jesse Winker - ideal platoon LF.
    Ryan O'Hearn - affordable contract, rough 2nd half
    Jake Cronenworth- signed until the year 3000
    Cedric Mullins- ideal platoon CF, leadoff hitter.
    Brandon Marsh- K machine, weak in CF
    Brandon Lowe - dream acquisition
    Luis Arraez- batting average and nothing else.
    Pete Alonso - got a billion $$ bill in your pocket?
    Miguel Rojas - career joyrneyman will be 36 !!
     
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  11. IBTL

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    Hurry the **** up and make more trades already and signings.
     
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  12. Hemingway

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    I can't tell if you guys are joking are not. Altuve will never play in the outfield. He doesn't have the arm for even leftfield and he is slowing down as well. He will play 2nd base/DH for the rest of his career.
     
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  13. Snake Diggit

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    Agreed. He wouldn’t be the worst LF in Astros history but he has no business being converted to an everyday LF role. He will play 2B everyday for hopefully 2-3 more seasons, then have 1-2 seasons where he plays 2B with fly ball pitchers and DHs other days, then be a DH only for the rest of his career.
     
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  14. IdStrosfan

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    It's looking more and more like the Astros are going to need to jigsaw puzzle the bottom half of the lineup everyday in 2025.

    Since they have decided they aren't trading Framber, and it makes no sense to trade any other SP, they need to get serviceable bats who can play OF or a corner inf for Pressly and/or Caratini.

    Based on roster construction and rules, it's nearly impossible to platoon more than 2 positions.

    That means they need at least 2 more everyday players at 1b/3b and/or OF. Of they get that then they can look for platoon options to pair with some combination of Singleton, Chas, Meyers, Dubon, Dezenzo, or Whitcomb in the other 2 spots.

    Despite all the noise, I don't see them paying the penalty to sign a FA w/ a QO attached despite what they are saying.

    The options are getting pretty low.

    I still think resigning Bregman solves multiple issues and is by far the best choice, even if it will look ugly in 5-7 years.
     
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  15. No Worries

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    I think that this is the Astros current Plan A.
     
  16. the shark

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    When the Astros traded for Greinke there was 62.5 million in deferred money owed. The break down was the following:
    '22 12.5 mil
    '23 12.5
    '24 12.5
    '25 12.5
    '26 12.5

    So two more yrs on the books. Wondering if the Astros have looked at deferring some money in order to make the Bregman contract work? Example 30 mil over say six yrs (5 mil per yr) starting in 2032. Bregman would obviously have to be open to it as well.
     
  17. STR8Thugg

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    Altuve in left field? Can you share your mushrooms pls
     
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  18. STR8Thugg

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    Can’t wait for him to pitch 7.2 innings next year.
     
  19. Nook

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    Paredes would be in the outfield before Altuve. Oddly enough, Altuve has gotten some work in at first … if I were a SS or 3rd baseman, it would be intimidating seeing a midget target at 1st.
     
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  20. Castian Crew

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    We'd have to bring Correa back with the accurate arm
     
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