Oh and DD, one could post "*** ***** *** ***** *** **** **** ***** *** **********" and it'd be more "intelligent" than much of the crap in this thread.
You forgot Scott Stapp. Seriously, if this list doesn't ruin your credibility, I don't know what will. Richard Hidalgo is playing some amazing ball right now, I'll give you that. He actually hit four doubles off our softball team last weekend.
Oh, I believe Clemens will be coming back. The Astros gambled and it looks like it's going to pay off in a way. We could have used Clemens for the first few months but at least we'll have him for the stretch run. But even if Clemens does end up signing, it doesn't mean the Astros made the right decision. It means they got lucky.
Everyone on that list would give us more production than Wilson has at this point. Now Damon and Konerko there is no way you can argue that. I understand that you may not include Hidalgo but I'm pretty certain he could at least match and likely do better than Wilson's .258,5,22 at this point.
That's freaking hilarious. There's one common denominator in these situations you're used to, yet everyone *else* is wrong. It's also hilarious that six full months later you're still b****ing and moaning about Clemens arbitration. But, that's OK, after at least a dozen people have exposed the gaping holes in your pitiful "logic" on this issue, you trot out this "they are all clueless" argument. Classic. Can't wait 'till you respond with some rhetoric that you've already typed in at least two dozen times the past six months, just so someone can shoot it down again.
Arbitration wasn't going to be $22M. The Astros paid $20M after his 2004 season. 2005 was much better. Clemens could argue that the Astros valued him at $20M before the sub-2 ERA, so he's worth much more now. Clemens could ask for $30M or $35M if he wanted. And the way arbitration works, you pick either the club's offer or Clemens' - nothing in-between. Arbitration was and is a dumb idea for an aging player - there's a reason no one ever does it.
Of course, you're conveniently ignoring the fact (yes, fact) that Clemens had zero desire to pitch the "first few months", as evidenced by his comments ("Consider me retired") and the fact that he's still not pitching, 4 weeks after he could have signed. But this topic has been beaten into the ground, so I'll leave it at that.
If you throw actual signability out of the window, then yeah, they made a mistake. To get either of those guys to come here, the Astros would have had to vastly overpay them.
Well this series sucked. I thought this would be a golden opportunity for this team to get a foot hold again, and turn back to the winning ways. I didn't know we'd lose a four game series to the 2nd worst team (home record wise) in the league. This one hurts. It is a long season, but damn. May sure has sucked for the Stros.
Our payroll is 90 million + right now, and Drayton is willing to add alot more to that with Clemens' contract offer. You know nothing.
I've been saying for along time that this team needs to add a left handed power bat in the middle of the lineup. If that means Lamb, so be it and move Lance to the outfield. If it means adding somebody at the deadline (Aubrey Huff), so be it. Check this split out: Team OPS vs. RHP: .702 Team OPS vs. LRP: .921 Is that really surprising though? The entire lineup top to bottom is righty, except for Berkman.
You're an idiot. Drayton should have been willing to sign Clemens prior to the season. And he's not really going to be adding much more, since he'll only be paying for half a season. Plus, Clemens puts fans in the seats, he adds income to this team. I am a season ticket holder and have been for a few years. I care about this team immensely, but it doesn't mean I won't call management out when they are trying to get by on the cheap and make stupid decisions. You can either do what it takes to compete, or you can try to get by. There is a hell of a big difference. Our team went on a great run, but we still weren't good enough to win the World Series last year. In the offseason, our pitching staff got much weaker, and our offense did not get appreciably better. And you're saying that's not a problem? I would have thought that Drayton would have learned by now. I really thought he had. You have to spend money to make money. But between playing hardball with Clemens and signing a broken down Wilson to a cheap contract and acting as if that's a big addition to our team, it's obvious that this is still the guy who was willing to let Jeff Kent walk away over just a couple of million. We could have used his rbi's last season, just like we could use Clemens right now.
This is becoming downright hilarious... maybe you should give those season tickets away to fans who appreciate what the organization has done over the past 10 years in fielding a consistent winning team.
Erroneous on all counts. Drayton should not have been willing to sign Clemens without knowing that Clemens wanted to come back and play. Offering arbitration at that point would have been an absolutely idiotic move. Clemens' pro-rated 9 million will be a "lot". It's a full tenth of the payroll, and no the added attendence won't pay for it contrary to popular belief. What you call "cheap" is in fact called "running a business". What stupid decisions are you referring to? The team was good enough to win the World Series last year. The postseason is largely luck based. It's such a small sample size of games that a hot or lucky team is the champion. They weren't playing "hardball" with Clemens. You're a moron. The team is doing well right now. Playing above .500 ball with 3 very inexperienced starters. You're attacks on management are baseless.
:smashesheadagainstwallrepeatedly YOU ARE THE STUPIDEST PERSON ON THIS BBS. there, i said it. i couldn't read another one of your inane posts and just idely sit by. your entire perspective on the world in general is warped, skewed, and highly illogical. some of the points you so adamantly defend seem to defy reason. i'm not even going to address the topics at hand since others have already (so eloquently) debunked and rebuked most of your assinine presumptions.
The funny thing is, I think everyone is right, and everyone is wrong...... Just agree with both sides on some points and disagree on others. Management could have done more to help the offense, and offering arbitration to Roger was 50/50 at best. If Clemens comes back, they did the right thing, if he plays elsewhere, they made a big mistake. If he stays retired, they did the right thing. I do think that management thought this team was a World Series contender again without Clemens, and I think that is simply wrong, they are a potential WC team, but not a series contender without Clemens IMHO. DD
