I really do enjoy what you do on here, and the knowledge you bring to the table. Even though this game got a lot of people crossed in this thread ...including myself. This is not a make or break game for the Astros. Thanks again Nick!
Hard to disagree with that. It's like the defender in football that picks up every fumbled ball and runs toward the end zone...you never know if a referee is going to blow it and allow the score to count.
Depends on what the umpire said/did once Castro asked for a new ball. The umpire should have emphatically signaled a safe call since there was confusion but it looked to me like Joyce had no clue about anything.
The umpires screwed up the calls after the missed foul ball. Or only chance is that. If I was the Indians I would have protested as well, since they called time with a supposedly live ball.
Playing a ball off the wall even though you are pretty sure it went out is a good comparison to the fumble analogy. Making the throw to first even though you know you fielded that ball down the line in foul territory also applies. But this? This isn't some questionable fumble. This isn't a borderline call. This is baseball 101. Asking Castro to go after that ball would be like asking a DB to run into the stands to retrieve every ball that the QB throws away just in case the ref doesn't notice. You guys are arguing stupidity. Castro played this exactly right, and any sort of strange criticism pointed his way is misguided at best, contrarian just for the point of arguing at worst.
You keep repeating the same thing. I know Castro could have ran after the ball he knew to be obviously foul... But you also harp about the "proper" reaction, which in fact is exactly what Castro did. When a ball is obviously fouled off, the proper reaction is not to run after a dead ball. It wasn't just a bad call... It was an egregiously bad call. It's equivalent to a runner getting thrown out by 5 feet, but he keeps running just because, while everybody else has already walked off the field, and the brain-dead umps decide to reward his idiocy. IN this case, the runner from 3rd broke for home (despite him fully expecting to be sent back), Joyce got confused... Got more confused when the 2nd runner kept going... Inexplicably called time-out... Then all hilarity ensues. You can't even make this **** up... It's so bad. I love baseball tremendously... But when they get crap like this wrong, with all the other nuances and rules that things cannot be changed, and procedural dogma that only exists within the context of these 100 year old mostly archaic rules.... They really get it wrong.
Everything the umpire did can be considered a judgement call. In his judgement it was a wild pitch, so nothing to protest. In his judgement it was a dead play so he called time to discuss things. Now we all agree his judgement on that play was egregiously bad, but he did not misapply any rule.
Terrible game. Terrible management of the pitchers. Brady Rogers should not see the field again. I'm waiting in the concourse trying to decide to walk to the car or wait out the rain. It's looking like it'll be a while though. By he way, met Fabricio Werdum on the walk in. Seems like a cool guy. Got a picture with him.
Have another beer and deal with it. 2 out of 4 at Cleveland ain't bad. Come home and take care of business next 2 series and then beat the hell out of the bottom-dwellers. Game on.
It can't be both a wild pitch and a dead ball. That isn't a judgement call. The Indians could've protested and had a good case.
i was out. is there any way to easily summarize? seems like some craziness based on twitter and here..
