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[Official] Astros @ Giants

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, May 14, 2010.

  1. J.R.

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    Hah, never! Not when it's the Cubs. Only reason I picked a W today is Paulino had a fairly decent outing in his last game. Though I didnt realize your stat of SF owning us. Yikes!
     
  2. Surfguy

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    Paulino, meet Thumbelina. Thumbelina is going to help you get movement on the ball...so you can maybe win a game. Meanwhile, the Astros hitters are being helped to hit by the tree people. ;)

    What the heck was I talking about? :confused:
     
  3. BrooksBall

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    Paulino is getting killed again in SF.

    This was the most winnable game of the 3 on paper.
     
  4. tellitlikeitis

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    And Felipe Paulino continues to be a tease.
     
  5. BrooksBall

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    Paulino has pitched over 150 innings now in the majors, mostly as a starter, and has a WHIP over 1.60 an ERA north of 6.00. He'll be 27 in a few months.

    He's still pretty young but his future as a starter isn't looking good.
     
  7. BrooksBall

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    It's been kind of an interesting couple of games. We saw the best and worst opponents for our 2 youngest SPs.

    Both sample sizes are pretty small though obviously. It's nothing like Roy and the Reds.
     
  8. J.R.

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    And back to his ways indicitive in his record and ERA

    ^^^Maybe Dave Duncan can help get Paulino straight. Oh wait..
     
  9. Bojangles

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    You know we're playing a ****ty game when the announcers are spending more time clocking how long fly balls stay in the air than calling the game.
     
  10. BrooksBall

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    Meanwhile, we were making their worst starter look like an ace until that Pence dinger.

    We could still make him look like Cy Wellemeyer before the night is through. He's given up only 2 hits and a walk through 4.
     
  11. Bojangles

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    Yeah, there comes a certain age where if he would have had the make-up to be a starter then he'd be one of our starters much sooner. I forget on Paulino, how were his minor league numbers back in the day?
     
  12. J.R.

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    WTG Pence. Might be the only run we see.
     
  13. BrooksBall

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    Pretty poor for the most part: http://thebaseballcube.com/players/P/Felipe-Paulino.shtml

    A WHIP of nearly 1.40 and an ERA over 4.00 over 360+ innings.

    Other than 2005 at Short and Low A, he was bad in the minors, too.
     
  14. Bojangles

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    Although the 4 isn't necessarily bad is it? I know gm's generally like pitchers to go the strasburg route of doing well at each level, but explain about the WHIP?
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    He gave up a lot of walks + hits per inning pitched (WHIP).

    Almost all of his peripheral stats were bad, in addition to the high ERA.

    He throws the ball hard. That's about it. There is nothing else major league caliber about his ability. Even his fastball is flat. Combined with his shaky command and mediocre to subpar secondary pitches, that's a bad recipe.
     
  16. Bojangles

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    Yeah, that's disappointing to hear. I know pitching coaches are important and we all tongue-in-cheek joke about Duncan being the magical solution, but someone of his caliber really make a difference at Paulino's age/stage of his career?
     
  17. J.R.

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    (Age)
    (19)2003: Martinsville-Rookie [2-2, 5.61 ERA; 25.2 IP, 1.636 WHIP]
    (20)2004: Greeneville-Rookie [1-3, 7.59 ERA; 32 IP, 1.625 WHIP]
    (21)2005: 2 Teams-A--A [3-3, 2.95 ERA; 55 IP, 1.073 WHIP]
    (21)2005: Tri-City-A- [2-2, 3.82 ERA; 30.2 IP, 1.043 WHIP]
    (21)2005: Lexington-A [1-1, 1.85 ERA; 24.1 IP, 1.110 WHIP]
    (22)2006: Salem-A+ [9-7, 4.35 ERA; 126.1 IP, 1.409 WHIP]
    (23)2007: Corpus Christi-AA [6-9, 3.62 ERA; 112 IP, 1.357 WHIP]
    (24)2008: Round Rock-AAA [0-0, 0 ERA; 0.2 IP, 3.000 WHIP]
    (25)2009: Round Rock-AAA [2-1, 3.12 ERA; 34.2 IP, 1.529 WHIP]

    Edit: BB beat me to it. :eek:
     
  18. Bojangles

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    I can't describe it any other way than **** just seems to happen when Paulino is out there. Bloop hits, past balls, missed calls on thrown out runners at 2nd and the plate. Dude's got some ****ty luck sometimes.
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    Wild pitch, run scored.
     
  20. J.R.

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    Maybe just not very good hah.
     

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