Actually on the First run that scored, Lane double pumped, then threw home and we barely missed getting the guy out. If Lane had thrown right away he would have been out and the first run would not have scored. The Wilson play was just careless and inexcusable.
How so? Gallo's guy (Lofton) got nailed on a baserunning error. Even if Gallo got the guy out, the same runs would have scored. Wheeler's given up 3 singles and a double, along with getting 1 out.
If Lofton isn't on base, the runner doesn't move to second on the throw nailing Lofton at third and isn't in scoring position for the single. Granted, there were runs after that, but the run scoring on the enusing hit would not have happened without Lofton getting his hit.
that runner getting on changes the whole damn complexion of the inning, and wheeler's mindset when he comes it. it's overmanaging/awful managing to the extreme.
Good Night ... This Astros better turn this around soon. I'm already tired of staying up late to watch the bullpen suck
So you blame a leadoff single on Wheeler sucking for an entire inning? You think if Gallo hadn't given up a single, Wheeler would have been magically great? If Wheeler can't handle coming on with a man on 1st base, he shouldn't even be a major league pitcher, let alone an 8th inning guy. Let's see: Gallo: Leadoff Single, runner gets himself out. Wheeler: 3 singles, 1 double, one out. Yeah, let's blame Gallo here.
If a player is on the roster... even if he sucks... Garner has to use him at some point. He can't simply continue to only trot out only Qualls/Wheeler in every single tie game situation... but then again, if they're on full rest (which they were today), I'd still prefer he do so. Why don't the Astros front-office simply remove said player from the roster. Garner doesn't have the lee-way that some of the other coaches in this town have on personnel decisions... I know he can campaign for "his" guys like Munson over Q (who is tearing up AAA), and Gallo over just about anybody else during the season... but ultimately, the front-office has the final say. But, they'll likely "stay the course", not overreact, and still come out OK in the end... but that still won't remove the fact that Gallo is awful, he's always been awful (for a team in contention two years in a row, I don't know how a guy who's been as bad as him sticks), and I don't see him adding a pitch or getitng more miles on his fastball to completley turn it around.
ok, so you have no problem if gallo were to come into every game, give up a hit to the leadoff batter, then leave? i guess he never directly does much harm then.
Yeah - I'm not sure what the benefit of Gallo is on the team. I would just take our best AAA bullpen guy and just bring him up. He can't be any worse, I wouldn't think, and we might be able to use him for more than 1 batter at a time to reduce the load on everyone else.
He certainly doesn't help the cause. But blaming the loss and a 6-run inning on his lead off single is just plain dumb, especially when his baserunner got himself out.
Not to mention blaming Wheeler's bad night on Gallo as well. Gallo is used as a scapegoat way too much. He brings nothing to the team, but blaming him for everything that goes wrong is just bizarre.
nick, you're telling me that if garner feels that strongly about sending gallo down, he couldnt get that done? of course he can. garner apparently knows astacio is awful. that's why he never uses him in significant situations (last pitcher on the roster in 14 inning game withstanding). he doesnt hesitate to throw mikey out there every chance he gets though!
Do you think it made sense in that situation to bring Gallo in for one guy? Normally lefty specialist are used when the other team is in an RBI situation and have a big power hitting left handed hitter coming up. I can't think of ever seeing a manager have a lefty come in to face one batter at the beginning of an inning. I would maybe see the point if it was an All Star power hitter with a tied game, which at this point in his career I don't consider Lofton. And then there's the whole argument that Nick or one of the other posters mentioned earlier, and that is that Gallo hasn't been getting left handed hitters out and that Wheeler has had better success against leftys.
alright major...i'll rephrase my position: I cannot handle Gallo contributing to our losses whatsoever. it is completely unacceptable.
