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[Official] Astros @ Cubs

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What is Cecil suppoosed to do, he had a 13 inning game, his starter went out in the second inning of the second game, he had another starter go only four or five yesterday, how many are hurt in the bullpen. he's got to leave those guys in there no matter how bad it is. but you know that already, but you still b****ed that he had this sorry ass pitching staff above five hundred through half of the season.

    lay off the guy, its ridiculous.
     
    #801 pgabriel, Jul 30, 2009
  2. Uprising

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    Nice! Rep for you! :D
     
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  3. J.R.

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    Im not sure. Maybe expecting a different result? Who knows. Can I ask, why do we keep trotting these guys(Hampton,Ortiz) out there? It blows my mind. You have 2 guys waiting in the wings to replace those 2. Bazardo and Norris. Same could be said about Matsui. Why keep trotting him out there? You have a viable option in Keppinger.
     
    #803 J.R., Jul 30, 2009
  4. rockets934life

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    Cubs just got better!

    JonHeyman gorzelanny would go with grabow to cubs. anyone left on #pirates?

    Why cant we make this move? I know niether are great but better then Brocail, Ortiz and Hampton cause you cant be worse can you?!
     
    #804 rockets934life, Jul 30, 2009
  5. J.R.

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    I think you could easily swing a deal for Valverde. Many teams are looking for bullpen help. But then again, yes like you said, you have to take his salary into account. Tejada isnt so easy to move, I agree. But I ask in the end(offseason), do you offer these guys arbitration so you get your draft picks? If you do, you have the risk of them accepting it and having to bring them back. (On a sidenote, do you still get a draft pick if you dont offer arbitration and they sign with another team?)
     
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  6. cardpire

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    i'd love to see a list of the Pirates haul on trades this season. any links to see it all laid out? they had a true firesale.
     
    #806 cardpire, Jul 30, 2009
  7. cardpire

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    you don't get a draftpick if you don't offer them arbitration. there is no way drayton offers valverde arbitration. chances are high that he would accept it, and he'd be a waste of money. trading him is a no-brainer.
     
    #807 cardpire, Jul 30, 2009
  8. rrj_gamz

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    man, they are really sucking...thought yesterday was a fluke...today just sux...
     
    #808 rrj_gamz, Jul 30, 2009
  9. BrooksBall

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    Q walked twice in one game.

    That may be a first and a last.
     
    #809 BrooksBall, Jul 30, 2009
  10. TheBigAristotle

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    yikes :(. another game, another blowout.
     
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  11. J.R.

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    They got rid of their whole infield except 3B. And also some of the OF. LaRoche gone from 1B, Sanchez from 2B, Wilson from SS, Morgan from CF, McLouth from CF, Sean Burnett from P, Eric Hinske from RF, Ian Snell from P, Tom Gorzelanny from P, and John Grabow from P.
     
    #811 J.R., Jul 30, 2009
  12. rockets934life

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    Sampson vs Soriano may be coming up! I heard him on 1560 this morning and he didnt sound so happy with Soriano's crap on Monday should be fun!
     
    #812 rockets934life, Jul 30, 2009
  13. TheBigAristotle

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    well-done sir :D
     
    #813 TheBigAristotle, Jul 30, 2009
  14. J.R.

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    Oh alright, thanks for the clarification. So do you suggest trading him now?
     
    #814 J.R., Jul 30, 2009
  15. msn

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    Agreed!

    I think Coop has made some moves this year that open him up to some deserved scrutinty, but handling the pitchers the last few days isn't among them.
     
    #815 msn, Jul 30, 2009
  16. rockets934life

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    If you are not getting help for the rotation or even bullpen then yes do it!
     
    #816 rockets934life, Jul 30, 2009
  17. TheBigAristotle

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    holy ****ing hell. I just saw Ortiz official stat line. damn that's horrible.
     
    #817 TheBigAristotle, Jul 30, 2009
  18. cardpire

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    yeah....was interested in the players who they received in return. thanks though.
     
    #818 cardpire, Jul 30, 2009
  19. Nice Rollin

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    Why did the astros even sign russ ortiz in the first place?
     
    #819 Nice Rollin, Jul 30, 2009
  20. rockets934life

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    Ortiz and Hampton is even better...

    Hampton and Ortiz combined last 2 days: 6.1 IP, 17 h, 18 er, 7 bb, 3 k
     
    #820 rockets934life, Jul 30, 2009
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