actually the original questions were posed by you after i said, everett is far and away the best DEFENSIVE ss in the league.
look on the brightside, at least we're losing consistently. there's no bias in who we lose to, teams 15-20 under .500 and teams 15-20 over .500. whew
I saw the replay last night, if Elroy Jetson would have been taller he could have caught the game winning hit.
no, i was addressing different comments by burzamali, and anyway, is everett "far and away" a better defensive ss than vizquel? 10 GG's dont really count for much i guess. and, since you obviously think everett is a better defensive ss than vizquel....do you seriously think that he's "far and away" better???? there is that big of a gap between everett and vizquel's defensive capabilities??? are you brainless, a blinded homer, or just on crack?
He's neither, he's a well-informed baseball fan. You're right, Gold Gloves don't count for much. Jeter has won several and he's the worst shortstop in the majors.
in all seriousness...what's the point of talking like this? are you trying to win some internet jim rome smackoff award? congratulations....you're the winner.
try again....Jeter has 2 gold gloves, most recently last season, where he led the AL SS's in assists and was 2nd in fielding %. and let's not forget....Michael Young is "the worst ss in the majors" according to the same bible of you guys' that puts Everett the best over the past 3 years, and apparently you'd rather have him than everett! crazy! honestly, are the two of you really convinced that you think everett is "far and away" better defensively than omar vizquel? like, it's not even debatable, right? or are you going to keep avoiding the question?
1. terry pendleton won gold gloves. gold gloves are subjective awards. they're not measurements. derek jeter won gold gloves...i believe that's why the players recently voted him the most overrated player in the game today. because he is not on that level DEFENSIVELY and everyone knows that. 2. michael young was rated the worst SS in the majors DEFENSIVELY. this is not about his prowess at the plate. 3. yes...at this stage of his career i think adam everett is the best defensive SS in the game...and i don't believe it's really close. back in the mid to late 90's omar vizquel was that player. he's been in the league for 17 seasons now. he's 39 years old. no...omar does not have the range that everett has at this point of his career. i've heard it said of everett that he's the best defensive player in the game right now at any position. that's a pretty big universe of players, and i'm not willing to say that. but he's at least in that discussion.
I tried to stay out of this, but I just can't. Adam Everett is a superb defensive shortstop... and is hitting 200. Derek Jeter, Omar Visquel, Michael Young are allstars, and Jeter and Visquel are on their way to the hall of fame. My question: Would you rather have a hall of fame shortstop, or adam everett? Another factor is: I think Everett is a more valuable player in the National League. NL=Defense AL=Offense. Everett would be a backup on most AL teams because of his lack of offense. Edit: ok another note. The "everett" breed of shortstops I'll call them are a dieing art. More emphasis is being placed on the offense. Guys like Tejada, Peralta, Hanley Ramirez are becoming the new breed.
Everyone addressing this in the future, please understand what the original discussion was. It was all about DEFENSE. Not about whether you'd rather have X or Y. Sure you'd rather have a hall of fame shortstop. But who's better defensively right now--Everett or X? And the answer is Everett. People are debating things that weren't the original discussion basically because rocketfat turns everything into something that it's not so that he can argue what he feels like arguing..
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Neither is logical thought. I used Jeter as an example of why Gold Gloves are meaningless. He's the worst defensive shortstop in the majors. Maybe you should try again. Fielding % and assists are limited measures of defensive performance. Read my comments about Young again. I'd rather have him because of his overall value, but I would not play him at shortstop over Everett. Yes, Everett is far and away better defensively than Vizquel. It's not even debateable.
and understanding the game of baseball and providing objective opinions isn't your strong suit. anyway, momma taught me never to play dumb with an aggie, and i think that applies here! so i'm done trying to talk sense into you! some people just dont get it i guess. stay clueless, and god bless!
I use stats, an objective measurement, to support my posts. You use Gold Gloves, a subjective award, to support yours. Who's the objective one? I'm not an Aggie, nice try. I'll take your post as an acceptance of your defeat, albeit without grace.
LOLOLOL!!! You do??? that's funny, you haven't provided a single stat in this thread!!! what a joke you are. show me all those stats that you gave me to prove everett is "Far and away better" than every other SS in the league defensively. i am right as usual! man, sometimes i forget how smart i am. people like you help me re-affirm it every time though! give up son, you will never win an argument this me. i am your intellectual superior. deal with it.
Read the Fielding Bible. Learn about Vectors and UZR. I'm done with this argument because you have descended into "Oh yeah, well I'm smarter than you and I'm right." Thanks for admitting defeat.
