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[Official] Astros @ Braves

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. BigM

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    well if pettite pitches tomorrow(saturday) and wins then sampon's going to have to pitch sunday in another must win against smoltz no less. he's got better odds tomorrow.
     
  2. GBRocket

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    Anyone else still mad that they played LAAAne and Ensberg last night instead of Brave killer Burke and Huffy the Card Slayer?
     
  3. Chuck 4

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    Mad? Maybe. Surprised? Not at all..... Dude, It's Garner...
     
  4. RocketManJosh

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    Gotta Be today ... I still believe

    The Cards are going 1-2 ... If we take care of business we still got a shot
     
  5. JunkyardDwg

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    To be fair...Burke has been struggling pretty bad over his last 10 games ( .125, 1 BB, 0 hr, 0 rbis, and 10so :eek: ) while Ensberg has been actually pretty decent as of late ( .325, 6 BB, 6 so, 3 rbis, 1 hr). Also, Huff is quite worse facing lefties than righties, but Lane is just terrible from both sides and has been even worse than his season average over his last 10 while Huff is playing quite well; at this point I think Huff has earned himself a permanent spot in the lineup against lefties and righties alike. So I can understand keeping Burke out, but Huff, no.
     
  6. SamCassell

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    Huff? You're talking about the guy who had a chance to keep the Astros streak alive at the end of the game, 2 outs, 2 on, down by 3? The guy who struck out looking in his biggest AB of the season? The one batting .249 with average power? He got his shot and went down with the bat on his shoulder.
     
  7. JunkyardDwg

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    Well he's not a ph specialist, and Lamb and Palmeiro were already used. What other options did they have off the bench, Jimerson...Bruntlett? I hate it when any player takes a called third strike; get that bat off the shoulder. But the way he's been hitting lately, I think he warranted a start over Lane, whether a lefty was pitching or not. Looking at the average is a little misleading too; for one he is having to adjust to NL pitching (facing guys he's never hit against before) plus in about the same at bats he's put up 4 more HRs and 9 more RBIs and is .OPS is about the same as it was in TB.
     
  8. SamCassell

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    Not really sure what you're saying... in one sentence you state that Huff is still adjusting to NL pitching, and then in the same sentence you point out that his OPS is almost identical in both places. But if you believe that he's still adjusting to NL pitching, isn't that an argument to keep him out of the lineup? On the other hand, he's a pretty good player, and he's definitely been better than Lane this season. I just have a hard time calling Garner out for going with the righty against a lefty pitcher, considering Huff's poor numbers versus southpaws and the number of righthanders in the Braves' pen. Especially on a night where Huff was ultimately a goat for not even swinging the bat with the game on the line.
     
  9. JunkyardDwg

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    I'm not calling Garner out at all...he stuck with the lineup he's been going with during the whole winning streak and I was fine with that. I didn't really have a problem with Lane considering Huff's poor numbers; merely pointing out that Huff is a little less futile against lefty's than Lane is period. And I was stating that Huff is still adjusting to NL pitching, which probably accounts for his poor average, yet despite that he's still putting up decent enough numbers. If we do sign, hopefully he'll creap back up to his career averages (no reason to think he won't).
     
  10. RocketManJosh

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    Pettitte to pitch tonight and assume Roy to pitch tomorrow if it still matters.

    That would leave Roger to start on Tuesday if we can make it to the 1 game playoff

    All starts on short rest

    Edit: Actually would Roy be able to go tomorrow? It would only be 2 days rest right? Gonna be tough if it is Sampson vs. Smoltz
     
  11. JunkyardDwg

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    Short rest is a risk, but they have absolutely no margin for error now. Gotta go out with guns blazin.
     
  12. RocketManJosh

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    I can't believe that Roy is going to be pitching tomorrow on 2 days rest so that means Sampson will have to go tomorrow.

    We HAVE to win both games and I think I'd rather have Sampson try to win against Cormier and have Andy win on full rest against Smoltz.

    I don't like the Sampson v Smoltz matchup if that is what Garner is thinking. Gotta win both so you should put the team in the best position to win both games.

    I guess we'll see whats on tap for tomorrow but there isn't a good option I don't think
     
  13. DaDakota

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    We are dead, all the cardinals have to do is win one of the next two.....DEAD....it was a good ride though.

    DD
     
  14. JunkyardDwg

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    I dunno, normally I'd agree...but there won't be a tomorrow if we don't win today. Might as well do everything we can to win tonight and worry about Sunday on Sunday.
     
  15. RocketManJosh

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    But you HAVE to win both ... I think Garner has to put the team in position to win both games. If the games are going to be pitched by Sampson and Pettitte. Why wouldn't you order them in the order that gives you the best shot to win both. It does NO good to win today and lose tomorrow.

    This is what we should have done if we were ahead and only needed 1 win as it gives us a great shot today
     
  16. TMac#1

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    That shot by Big P was ridiculous. The sign on the wall at that restuarant in the outfiled said 452. Lamb, Taveras and Scott have each hit the ball very hard.
     
  17. TMac#1

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    Wouldn't surprise me to see us put up double digits tonite.
     
  18. RocketManJosh

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    5 baserunners and 1 run :(
     
  19. rocketfat

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    that's pretty amazing
     
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    yeah i don't understand it either. both games are must wins. unless garner is planning on bringing roy on 2 days rest, which is probably ridiculous, why postpone sampson?
     

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