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[Official] Astros At Tigers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. Uprising

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    And Wandy's wheels have certainly come off. :eek:
     
  2. arkoe

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    [arkoe's random astros gripe generator]Lidge shouldn't be closing anymore![/arkoe's random astros gripe generator]

    Stupid random astros gripe generator, it's only the 4th inning.
     
  3. rodrick_98

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    he's right on track. his era matches the bullpen's :(
     
  4. Surfguy

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    Well this isn't any more fun playing Detroit. I hope Clemens is up for the task tomorrow. At least they haven't hit a grand slam.
     
  5. rodrick_98

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    they've been scoring too quickly to load to bases.

    on a side note, anyone know the record for consecutive games of giving up a grand slam?
     
  6. arkoe

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    Looks like that was the third time in history that a team had had 3 consecutive games with one. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/rb_grsl2.shtml
     
  7. The Cat

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    Our situational hitting is absurdly awful.

    First inning, bases loaded, 3-0 count, 1 out... anything but a K or DP... Preston immediately hits a sharp grounder to third and we don't convert. Sixth inning, runners on third and second, 3-2 count, 1 out... anything but a K, almost any contact at all scores a run... Biggio can't lay off a pitch miles out of the strike zone.

    Teams like the White Sox and Tigers seem to convert with singles and doubles when there are men on second and 2 outs. We can't seem to even get a routine fly ball or a slow grounder when we have a man on third and 1 out or fewer. It's uncanny how horrible we can be at the simple things like making contact with the ball.

    I know it's just a bad stretch and it'll turn around in time, but it's frustrating to lose games like this. If we could make a couple of plays that even A level hitters could make, it'd be a 6-5 game right now.
     
  8. yo

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    there goes garner

    then WHAM

    maybe that was fueled by garner.
     
  9. Burzmali

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    Incredible play by Polanco.

    If he doesn't make that, it could be a 1 run game right now.

    I like to see Garner get tossed, maybe he needs to start lighting a fire under these guys asses.
     
  10. The Cat

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    Off-topic rant, but major league umpires are a joke. Lance is ejected for throwing his helmet in the heat of the moment after a close play at first.

    I respect that the game has to go on, and if a player argues a call to a certain extent or gets in an umpire's face and refuses to leave, action has to be taken. However, umpires are so hypocritical that it's ridiculous. Anytime anyone criticizes them, they're there to remind us that they're human so they're not perfect. Anytime anyone discusses using one of the machines to help them with strike/ball calls, they remind us that the human element is part of the game and so are mistakes.

    OK, that's fine. I accept that. But if you want the players and fans to accept that, you need to realize it's a two-way street. Players aren't perfect either. When a close call goes against them in the heat of the moment, they might be upset for a fraction of a second and throw their helmet or utter a curse word. If it continues or if it impacts the flow of the game, by all means eject them. But if it's a momentary lapse, an immediate ejection is completely uncalled for.

    Grow up. Umps, you want us to accept that you're not perfect and not fly off the handle? That's fine. But why should the players have to be perfect if you can't be? In the heat of the moment, they might be upset. If it continues and develops into a problem, eject them... but this elementary school type discipline is excessive.

    There, I feel better.

    GO ASTROS!
     
  11. rocketfat

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    heheheh.....one by one, you are all going to start coming around and start agreeing with every word i say. i am able to see things about 2 years ahead 99% of you. you are all blinded homers, which is not an insult, it just means you are big fans who can't use rational and objective thought when viewing your team's players, but please understand that you do not realize who on the astros sucks. the fact that you are fans of the astros is good though.

    craig biggio and brad ausmus have no business starting in the big leagues, if you are a team who aspires to win a world series.


    PERIOD.
     
  12. The Real Shady

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    Not a chance.
     
  13. The Cat

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    Biggio's useful. He's certainly not the only player in the big leagues who struggles becoming a contact hitter when the situation dictates it. I wish he could be, and you're right, if he were his intangibles would certainly be better... but his power does produce certain numbers that for the 2B position are incredibly useful. I don't agree with you that he can't be a solid starter in spite of it, but yes, it does hurt a lot when he can't make the simple plays.

    That said, Biggio's power numbers do need to start coming around... if he's not going to hit 20 homers and instead be a .270, 12 HR hitter... those things like struggling to make contact will become more magnified. Honestly, so much of his value disappears without the Crawford Boxes that I'm not sure why he's in the lineup instead of Lane. At least with Lane you have the potential here and there for a homer.
     
  14. Burzmali

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    Nope.

    It's not just your arrogance that's annoying. It's that you have no reason to be arrogant. All of your "analysis" reeks of immaturity and an ignorance of reality. Grow up.
     
  15. rocketfat

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    you're right. he's just the only player 40 years old who is 7 years past his prime and gets a free pass to play and start in the big leagues as long as he wants despite his performance who does.


    also.....
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=2358966&postcount=161


    COUGH...COUGH...COUGH. the quicker you guys understand that i see things that you all dont, and start treating my every word as gospel, the better off you all will be.
     
  16. Uprising

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    Well, there's Borowski instead of springer. :eek:
     
  17. rocketfat

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    ah, finally you to have come around, my friend.

    you've finally accepted that all your studying of sabermetrics and bill james and whoever the heck else you quote because you cannot formulate your own opinion will never compete with the accuracy that my rational thought and common sense deduced from actually observing the players play produce.

    so, now it's time for you to move on and attack my character. smart, smart choice.
     
  18. Uprising

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    Haha, now the bases are loaded with Springer. Good Lord! :eek: :eek: :mad:
     
  19. The Cat

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    It's not all sabermetrics. It's power. Except for Joe Morgan, everyone seems to acknowledge that you need a certain amount of power in a lineup to seriously contend for a championship. Now in Biggio's case, with that power comes a few weaknesses... primarily, struggling to make contact in certain situations and struggling in general against pitchers that don't make mistakes. However, if he can hit 25 HR like he did last year, that's so far above what a typical 2B will hit that it's unreasonable to take him out of the lineup.

    But, he's certainly not on that power pace this year, and if he doesn't come close to it, I'll come around to your side. But it's not time yet... gotta give it more than 75 games before we get a good read for how his season is actually going to go.
     
  20. rocketfat

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    that was a reply to burzmal, not you, but for you i have one simple question:

    right now, this season...who would you rather have starting 150 games at 2nd: chris burke or craig biggio? and is it even close?
     

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