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[Official] Angels @ Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I am glad Luhnow and Hinch are in charge. You’re ready to strip Pressley and Smith of their roles based on a 5 inning body of major league work.
     
  2. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    So what you are saying is that one shouldn't use small sample sizes of data to try to make a point such as 13 innings of save situations.

    Will be interesting to see what Josh Flames does. It would not surprise me if a year from now he's a feared ace reliever if he doesn't pan out as a starter.
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    No thanks. I don’t want a high leverage reliever that struggled to command where walks can be deadly, especially with the other high level talent in the bullpen. But I’m mighty excited about James long term.
     
  4. Tomstro

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    Yes. That is what eveyone expects. To never give up a run or make an out. You aren’t being annoying at all.
     
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  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I have never claimed to not be annoying.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Generally I was using 50 or so innings of save situations dating back to last season. But, if I can’t use 13 innings then no one can use 3 innings. :)

    (And the trend continues...7/7 in save situations, although he finally allowed his first run in one....non-save, 5 games, 4 innings, 10 runs, 8 earned. Truly one of the more remarkable relief years ever)
     
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  8. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    You were using 50 innings excluding data you didn't like, decades of relief pitcher data suggesting pitchers don't pitch better in save situations, previous seasons of Giles suggesting he has no special save situation intensity, and batted ball data suggesting he was hit as hard in save situations as he was in non-save situations (i.e., he was getting lucky in save situations that batters were hitting balls at defenders).

    But, yes 5 innings isn't enough. Though Flames's minor league performance suggests he has a better chance than most to become a solid reliever. It will be interesting to watch him.
     
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  9. Tomstro

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    Yeah it would be laughable
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Pretty sure it would be laughable for many of the posters in this forum to say they weren't annoying.
     
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  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Which is why I said Giles season this year is remarkable. I have to imagine his splits are historic and they have continued for five months.
     
  12. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    "Odd" and/or "weird" are applicable descriptions for Giles' season.. not remarkable or incredible.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    ‘remarkable’ - worthy of attention; striking
    ‘remarkable’ - worthy of being or likely to be noticed especially as being uncommon or extraordinary.
     
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    Remark-worthy is more accurate.
     
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  15. Tomstro

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    But extra laughable in this case
     
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    Pivotal game today. Athletics begin series with the Yankees. Seattle is comfortably behind in the standings. Win, win, win. Good grief, it is the Angels. Spank these guys and send them home.
     
  17. Houstunna

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    I understand the definition, but the word is generally meant as positive.

    His entire Astros tenure was weird.

    2016- He sucks during save situations, and was successful during non-save
    2017- He sucks on the road, does well at home
    2018- He sucks during non-save, but is highly successful for saves

    Remark-worthy
     
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It can go either way. If Osweiler throws 6 interceptions in a half, that is remarkable. The Rockets 3 point shooting in game 7 was remarkable
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I’m far from alone in that description either.
     
  20. Tomstro

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    there are a couple of posters that are more annoying than you, I will give you that.
     

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