Official 2013 Budget/Debt Limit/Obamacare Crisis Thread

How long has it been texxx since you posted something that you believed to be in the realm of reality?

Funny thing is, I'm sure I can go through your post history and find a post of you blabbering about how not raising the debt ceiling will not cause the U.S. to default or how the shutdown is just merely a "slimdown" and won't negatively affect American lives. But now that there is a legitimate possibility that the debt ceiling will not be raised your type will now try to take advantage of this horrible situation and create a false reality about how it was Obama that caused all this when many high profile members of YOUR OWN PARTY believe this was the fault of the tea baggers in the house. Pure disgust... Unfortunately for you texxx, your distorted view of who's at fault will be a tough sell. What is the approval rating for the Republican party as a whole right now? ****ing thought so. Let me guess... The illegals rigged the polls.

 

Larsv8, you were totally right.

 

Obama's approval rating is lower than George W Bush's at the same point in his presidency.

 

it simply can't be said enough. Obama does not know how to lead. Other countries are laughing at us as we lurch from crisis to crisis, every single year.

You can make fun of it, but you only do that because you cannot refute it.

 

I wonder what his approval rating would have been if he just held on to the position a few more months for the 08 crash to happen under his belt unless you honestly believe Obama legislated his way to the crash in his few months time as the president.

So no actual response to the actual content of my post? Thought so...

 

Here's hoping

Reid, McConnell Restart Talks As House GOP Flames Out



Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) restarted talks Tuesday evening on a deal to avert default, after House Republicans failed on multiple attempts to secure support for bill.

"Senator Reid and Senator McConnell have re-engaged in negotiations and are optimistic that an agreement is within reach," said Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for Reid.

"Given tonight's events, the Leaders have decided to work toward a solution that would reopen the government and prevent default," said Don Stewart, a spokesman for McConnell. "They are optimistic an agreement can be reached."

 

Here's hoping, indeed. Supposedly one of the reasons the Senate was deferential to the House today was that an initiative coming from the House (assuming it would have been palatable in the end) would have been "privileged" and avoided the risk that someone like Ted Cruz could derail the process by calling for 30 hours of debate. Since obviously that's not happening now given that the House Republicans have proven what a complete cluster**** their caucus is, one has to wonder if Cruz or one of his compatriots in the Senate would try to gum up the works for any perceived personal or party gain. I seriously hope not, but I'm not optimistic enough to rule out that possibility at this point.

 

The Republicans have done the impossible. They've made Harry Reid look good.

 

And I bet when Mr. Obama's presidency is over he'll be able to travel overseas without the threat of being arrested for war crimes.

So, he's got that going for him.

 

Boehner will long be forgotten

as will any Pyrrhic victory Barack tries to claim...

this one could define Obama's legacy

 

Notice at this point, as we're on the verge of texxx's Republican bretheren thrusting the world into an economic period of chaos and uncertainty, his only concern is how they will have been able to damage Obama's legacy? Burn the country down as long as we get Obama. That is just sick.

 

The Dems don't have the votes in the House to demand anything right now. They will either have to compromise or allow this to be Obama's legacy. At the end of the day no matter how bad libs try to bash the repugs as extremists, it will always be remembered as the Obama admin who caused the US to default on their loans. Obama has added more debt to the US economy than any other president in history.

 

Unfortunately it is Obama who has burned the country down. Their would be no debt ceiling if this administration understood how to budget and cut spending.

 

I thought polls didn't lie?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/poll-gop-blame-shutdown-20513906

You think somehow the people are going to switch who they blame when all the compromise right now is coming from the Dems and moderate Republicans?

 

or if the House GOP voted for policies that made sense.

this is the third disaster for no good reason that is happening because of an arbitrary limit that defies common sense.

 

Exactly. A leader has to accept accountability. Obama may actually not even realize this. Another sign of his immaturity as a leader.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzog...bama-recovers-congress-suffers-from-shutdown/

he doesn't have to accept anything, the American people have judged.

 

this is a disgrace for both sides, but the one upshot is that the GOP is really trying its' best to lose the Senate again in 2014.

Generic Congressional Vote at Democrats +7 per favorite liberal polling source Rasmussen Reports

complete meltdown

 

Yes, it was Obama that refused to fund the government in order to overturn the law of the land. You are so right. Good call buddy.

You think those stupid American voters will buy it?