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Official 2008 Olympic thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Faos, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. francis 4 prez

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    what the **** are y'all talking about. y'all act like i don't get how to add 2 numbers up or that there are 2 numbers to add up or that some gymnasts are better and can do harder things. my advanced math skills do in fact inform me that 6.5 is 1.0 greater than 5.5. i got it. i actually like that there are 2 separate scores now because it shouldn't all be execution. what i am saying is that they are essentially rewarding harder routines far too much and the 2 numbers are too interconnected. when you can do a 6.5 and fall all over the place (today) and still get the same score as a 5.5 executed perfectly (liukin), what's the point? if you screw up the pushoff and fall on your knees, you clearly couldn't do the 6.5 anyway. it seems to me falling down on a vault kind of makes it hard to give you credit for being able to do the vault. maybe it should be more like 1.6 instead of .8 since landing is such a big part of the vault (whereas on floor there are many other elements). it just makes no sense that difficulty is essentially the only thing that matters.


    edit: i never though i'd be making so many posts caring so much about freakin' gymnastics scoring.
     
  2. yuantian

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    i am talking about in general. people are humble. if US wins anything, they will just admit that they are better, even if there is home court advantage. they don't look for excuses. cultural differences i guess.
     
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    The Chinese vaulter's hand position was wrong entering the vault and wasn't deducted. The judges missed it, that is what Bela was talking about.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    I believe there was just controversy on how he treated the athletes from the length of their training regiments to food intake controls.
     
  5. meh

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    Listened to the Chinese broadcast last night(in Beijing, your morning). Chinese announcers felt weird because they're so "humble" to the point of absurdity. It almost felt like they were just commenting on the performance rather than pumping up the audience about the Chinese contestants.

    But one thing that I did like was how they explained the judging system. Which part was worth how many points, where points are added(for continuity) or subtracted(for errors) and how much they're worth. It really gave me new insights on the sport.
     
  6. Lil Pun

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    Cultural differences, exactly. :)
     
  7. yuantian

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    she got 1.5 deducted. that's 2 major deductions. so the fall plus wrong hand position. that's wrong with that?
     
  8. yuantian

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    i b**** about everything all the time. not exactly Chinese like. :D so i b**** at the commentators. :)
     
  9. Lil Pun

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    b**** as you wish, it's a free country. :)
     
  10. yuantian

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    wow that dude was real good. too bad he fell off.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I wonder if Sasha Artemov is going to benefit on level of difficulty?
     
  12. yuantian

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    he will get deducted by rule. no more no less. if his difficulty is high enough, he would still be in contention for a medal.
     
  13. francis 4 prez

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    well, like someone said, if we're just assuming you pretty much lose .5 just to start, she really lost 1.0, which means only .2 outside of falling on her knees. considering the horrible pushoff, and what must have been other problems given that she fell, i think that's worth more than .2, don't you?


    damn american guy with the awesome pommel horse routine falls off at the part he had been nailing earlier. he might've medaled if he stayed on?

    and are y'all saying we get silver and bronze on the floor in women's? if that hasn't happened on tv yet, could we catch a spoiler tag or something? i wanna read and post in this thread but i feel like i have to avoid it for fear of having everything spoiled for me like just now
     
  14. JunkyardDwg

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    Him and his wife are still part of the Olympic team but they don't coach them.


    There have have been a number of routines in these Olympics that are visibly flawless or have maybe one minor miscue (that costs a .1) that haven't been scored a perfect 10 or have come close to it. That isn't right.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    I thought Bela was completely out of dealing with the U.S. team but his wife was still a part of it.
     
  16. pirc1

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    Yes use spoilers guys.
     
  17. yuantian

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    my bad. sorry. :( i thought everyone checked Yahoo already. :(

    well, you can't assume everyone to lose 0.5 to start with. 3 places you can lose points. start, twisting, landing. people lose 0.5 in one of those 3. she lost .8 in 2 of the 3 already. you can't just take 0.5 off just because. you know.
     
  18. yuantian

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    man, pommel horse looks like hell for your triceps.
     
  19. yuantian

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    wow Yang Wei didn't even medal. he didn't screw up at all. i guess his difficulty is too low.
     
  20. pirc1

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    I think I can sit on the horse, that's about it. ;)
     

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