I have not told other people to not care I've just said they are pointless, which they are and I keep reiterating that, you're right. Does China get anything for having the most golds? Nope. Does the U.S. get anything for having the most medals? Nope again. But the Chinese are b****ing because the U.S. is keeping total medal count and other are b****ing because China has the most golds without having the most medals when neither count matters for ****. Arguing over pointless crap like medal counts and the like when those aren't even the point of Olympics, which some others have pointed out. Oh and please find the post where I said anything about any sport not counting. Thanks in advance.
Here you go again, how it's pointless to talk about medals or standings. I get your point, after your 50 times reiteration in this thread alone, really. It's not just Chinese, most countries are putting out some sort of standing, and going by golds. Some posters are questioning why NBC is listing it differently. I agree it's one's right to put the standing anyway they like. But it's also one's right to question any standing. It's also one's right to care about, exactly same as your right not to care. You don't have the right to tell them to shut up about it. Weren't you the one who's arguing so hard to imply that judged sports are less sports? Some people like to watch running and swimming in all kinds of distances and combinations, other people also like to watch different artistic performance and all kinds of ball games. Is it that hard to let others enjoy themselves watching some sports you don't like, or care some medal standings you don't "care"?
Mostly generic lines pulled off of the net. I got it off of a site citing snopes.com and didn't bother check if it was legit or even current.
NBC: Beijing Olympics to become most-watched event in TV history NBC is rapidly closing on another historic ratings benchmark: The Beijing Games is set to become the most-watched television event of all time. Through 15 days of coverage, 208.7 million viewers have watched the Olympics on NBC Universal (including the NBC broadcast network and its cable channels), according to Nielsen Media Research. That’s only 300,000 less than the 1996 Atlanta Games. At 209 million viewers, Atlanta holds the all-time record for the most-viewed TV event. But with two more nights of Games coverage to go, including the closing ceremony, NBC sent out a press release Saturday expressing confidence that Beijing will soon overthrow the old record. The top five most-viewed events are all yesteryear Olympics coverage. NBC had a strong chance of setting a new record this round given its unprecedented dedication of 3,600 hours of coverage across a multitude of platforms. The all-time number is based on a standard Nielsen measurement that sets a fairly low bar for engagement, however. A viewer needs only watch six minutes of coverage to qualify. The measurement is often used to determine how many saw a lengthy sporting event where viewers tune in sporadically rather than watch full telecasts from beginning to end. Among nightly averages: The Summer Games 15 days of primetime is at 28.1 million per night, running 11% ahead of Athens in 2004. http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/08/beijing-games-t.html
Yes and I've posted those after just as many comments and arguments about medal count. So people can argue about medal counts and post their opinions, you just don't want to hear mine, right? I didn't say just Chinese, I pointed out others too. So you're saying that everybody can have their own opinion, I just can't have mine, right? No. The only thing I said is that not all of the sports are judged so this last part does not pertain to me except the little medal count thing. And it looks like, even judging from this post of your's that people are arguing over medal counts anyway so why can I not argue that they are irrelevant just like you are arguing that they are?
http://www.nbcolympics.com/taekwondo/news/newsid=251304.html#kicked+cuban+attacks+referee Cuba's Angel Matos deliberately kicked a referee square in the face after he was disqualified in a bronze-medal match, prompting the World Taekwondo Federation to recommend he be banned for life. "We didn't expect anything like what you have witnessed to occur," said WTF secretary general Yang Jin-suk. "I am at a loss for words." hahah
Bad Paperwork Cause of Age Confusion http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/gymnastics/news/story?id=3550793 BEIJING -- China's deputy sports minister has attributed the confusion about the age of one of its gold medalist gymnasts to a paperwork mistake during a team transfer. At last year's China's Cities Games, Chinese officials decided to move He Kexin, who won two gold medals during the Beijing Games, from a local team to the national team. China's deputy sports minister Cui Dalin said Sunday that it was during this transfer that a "misunderstanding appeared" about her age. "Last year at the all-city competition, He Kexin moved from one team to another and during the process of registering during the move, there appeared this age discrepancy," Cui said during a news conference. "So it was the appearance of a mistake in the process of transferring teams that the misunderstanding appeared. However, I can right here accurately say that the ages of the members of our gymnastics delegation entirely conform to the requirements for participation in the Beijing Olympic Games." It was at last year's China's Cities Games that the Chinese government's news agency, Xinhua, identified He as one of "10 big new stars" who made a splash at the event and gave her age as 13 in a Nov. 3, 2007 report. If the age reported by Xinhua was correct, that would have meant He was too young to be on the Chinese team that beat the United States to clinch China's first women's team Olympic gold in gymnastics. Cui's explanation comes as officials from the International Gymnastics Federation pored over documents in hopes of putting to rest, once and for all, persistent questions about the ages of all but one member of the six-person team. Chinese gymnastics officials handed over passports, ID cards and family residence permits after the FIG -- at the request of the International Olympic Committee -- asked for additional documentation on He, Yang Yilin, Jiang Yuyuan, Deng Linlin and Li Shanshan. Gymnasts must turn 16 during the Olympic year to be eligible. Some media reports and online documents have suggested they could be as young as 14. "All information is in Chinese and the [federation] is making as thorough analysis as possible of the papers," the FIG said in a statement Saturday. "This process may take some time, but in due course, the FIG will make a full report of our findings to the International Olympic Committee." There is no deadline for the investigation, and the Chinese have insisted the entire team is old enough to compete. "The international federation has required the delivery of birth certificates and all the documents like family books, entries in schools and things like that," IOC president Jacques Rogge said Sunday. "They have received the documents, and at first sight it seems to be OK." Cui said the Chinese Gymnastics Federation had "actively cooperated" with the FIG and that checks had confirmed "the ages of the members of our gymnastics delegation entirely conform to the requirements for participation in the Beijing Olympic Games. " If evidence of cheating is found, four of China's six medals could be affected. In addition to the team gold, He won gold on uneven bars and Yang got bronze medals on uneven bars and the all-around. He was a last-minute no-show at a concert Saturday night with other Chinese gold medalists, and no explanation was given. Cheng Fei, the only team member whose age hasn't been questioned, was there, but did not do interviews. Earlier this month, the AP found registration lists previously posted on the Web site of the General Administration of Sport of China that showed both He and Yang were too young to compete. He was born Jan. 1, 1994, according to the 2005, 2006 and 2007 registration lists. Yang was born Aug. 26, 1993, according to the 2004, 2005 and 2006 registration lists. In the 2007 registration list, however, her birthday has changed to Aug. 26, 1992. "It's not just me. The parents of our athletes are all very indignant," coach Lu Shanzhen said Friday. "They have faced groundless suspicion. Why aren't they believed? Why are their children suspected? Their parents are very angry." Until it directed gymnastics official to look into the age allegations one last time, the IOC had said it checked the girls' passports and deemed them valid. The FIG has said repeatedly that a passport is "accepted proof of a gymnast's eligibility." But the controversy never quite went away, with new reports of age discrepancies surfacing every few days. Neither the FIG nor IOC has said what prompted the IOC to ask the federation to investigate, especially since competition was already over, but both said it wanted the matter resolved quickly.
I even bolded the part to say that I agree one can care or not care freely, but don't just tell peole to shut up because they care for something that you claimed you don't. If that's too much to ask, just tell me to shut up. Cheers.
Why did you post that middle quote, to show that I did say that others were b****ing too and not just the Chinese. Thanks. You know what, I apologize for telling those of you that care to shut up. Can somebody that cares tell me what the point of the medal counts is and what you get for being tops, especially when groups can't decide on which count to go on?
I never said anything about how medals should be rated and how the standing should look like. I am interested in it, but I respect others for not interested or wanting to sort it in different ways. There is no should or should not in own preference. Can we please just leave it as that?
I never said you did say anything about that. Yes we can leave it as that as long as it is realized. Like I have said, other people don't leave it at that so why are you singling me out?
It's meaningless to talk about how to rank, you can see many different ways of ranking in different countries. Korea even ranks itself the number 1, comparing Japan and Thailand. The truth is, China is the winner of gold medal, USA is the totl number winner. USA is excel at big sports like basketball, China cares about unpopular gold medals like weight lifting!
more photos of Yao in the closing ceremony can be found in sina.com... http://roll.2008.sina.com.cn/photo_zt/7267/index_1.shtml http://roll.2008.sina.com.cn/photo_zt/7267/index_2.shtml
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/news/story?id=3551187 U.S. Embassy requests immediate release of foreign protesters BEIJING -- The U.S. Embassy pressed China to immediately free foreign activists jailed for protesting at the Olympics and criticized Beijing on Sunday for failing to use the Games to show "greater tolerance and openness." The blunt criticism came just hours before the end of the Games, which have largely followed the plan of China's leaders for a smooth-running event that would increase the country's international prestige. IOC president Jacques Rogge said the Games had helped open up China, though he expressed surprise that no permission had been granted for any protests to be held. He said the Games' legacy is "ultimately, up to the Chinese people." Chinese police have sentenced at least 10 foreigners to 10 days of detention for protesting during the Games, including eight Americans, a German and a British citizen. The activists were among small groups of demonstrators who have sought to raise China's tough rule in Tibet, its rights record and other issues during the Beijing Games. Most protesters were quickly dragged away by security forces and, in the first week of the 17-day event, escorted out of China within days. But some activists caught in the past week have been kept in custody under rules that allow officials to hold them without charge for up to 14 days. British and U.S. officials are seeking the quick release of their citizens. U.S. consular officials met with eight detained Americans on Friday, the U.S. Embassy said in a statement Sunday. They had not made any claims of maltreatment by Chinese officials, the statement said. Ambassador Clark T. Randt Jr. pressed the Chinese government on Saturday to immediately release the Americans, the statement said. U.S. officials would continue to raise concerns about the detentions with senior Chinese officials, it said. "We are disappointed that China has not used the occasion of the Olympics to demonstrate greater tolerance and openness," the statement said. It urged China to show respect for human rights, freedom of speech and religion. Britain's Foreign Office also issued a statement confirming the detention of a British citizen and urging the Chinese government "to respect its commitment to freedom of expression." Calls to China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs went unanswered Sunday, and the Public Security Bureau, which handles internal security, declined to make any immediate comment on the embassy statement. Under pressure to address human rights and free speech concerns, China said it would allow protests during the Games in three designated areas. But none of the more than 70 applications to demonstrate was approved, and some people were arrested as they sought the permits, rights groups and relatives said. "We found it unusual that none of these applications have come through," Rogge said at a news conference Sunday. IOC officials discussed with Games organizers the case of two elderly Chinese women who were ordered to spend a year in a labor camp after applying to protest, though the women were still at home under surveillance. The IOC was told it was a matter of Chinese law. "The International Olympic Committee is not a sovereign organization," Rogge said. "We have to respect Chinese law." Several members of another group that sought permission to protest during the Games were detained in a room for 48 hours by Chinese authorities before being deported to Hong Kong, spokesman Xiao Yuzhen said. The group represents businessmen in Hong Kong who wanted to complain about corruption. The Public Security Bureau had no immediate comment Sunday. Activist groups including New York-based Students for a Free Tibet staged a series of small illegal demonstrations near Olympic venues and at Beijing landmarks during the competition, unfurling banners and speaking out against alleged Chinese abuses. The U.S. Embassy identified the detained U.S. activists as James Powderly, Brian Conley, Jeffrey Rae, Jeff Goldin, Michael Liss and Tom Grant, a group taken into custody last Wednesday, and Jeremy Wells and John Watterberg, who were detained on Thursday. It said Chinese authorities said the group detained Wednesday would be released Aug. 30. The pair detained Thursday would be released Aug. 31, it said. Separately, the Chinese Human Rights Defenders group said AIDS activist Wang Xiaoqiao, who has been detained for nine months, has been convicted and sentenced to one year in prison in Xincai county. The organization accused the government of waiting until the Olympics, when the world was distracted by the Games, to sentence Wang. Phone calls to the Xincai county court and the news office of the county's public security bureau were not answered Sunday. On Sunday, Chinese President Hu Jintao called the Beijing Games a success and praised the athletes and volunteers. He said the event would "enhance mutual understanding and friendship between the Chinese people and the people of all other countries," the official Xinhua News Agency reported.
this is my favorite one yet. you're going to win china, because no one can force you to comply, but at least try not insulting our intelligence. a big ol' "**** off" would be far more respectful. maybe Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy were the ones who filled the paperwork out incorrectly. but luckily the Loch Ness Monster's new book explains it all.
Freaking baby Chinese Gymnists...might as well wear diapers and suck on pacfiers!!! They may have Gold, but at least we have freaking FREEDOM!!!!
