So you're saying rape doesn't offend you? And genocide only offends you because children are involved? It has nothing to do with being thick skinned. Being offended doesn't mean that you curl up into a fetal position and cry.
New stereotype: hotballa has problems with reading comprehension, and specifically reads something into people's statements that is not present.
All stereotypes are offensive, because they hold individuals to standards they might not be interested in meeting (or regressing downward to). They strip away a person's individuality, and are all laced with social, political, intellectual and economic subtext. They may be profitable or entertaining to emulate individually for the length of song, movie or standup comedy routine, but never, ever empowering on a large scale or over the long term. Plus, by virtue of their bad example, they make it more difficult for impressionable, insecure young minorities to assimilate to the majority culture, which partially feeds the cycle of economic and political peripherality.
Find me one Asian country where there is any significant amount of white dudes (even more than .5%). Asians are 5% of the population in America. Secondly, I'm not even arguing that we should have more Asians in TV and movies (though I want that, that's not what I'm talking about in this situation). What I'm talking about is how we're represented. And how there are a lot more Asian women than men in the media. And when you see the Asian women they're usually with white boyfriends. And when you see Asian men they're usually single. Your example of Harold and Kumar is a good one. But you do realize that one of the major reasons he gets the girl is because part of the message of the movie is turning stereotypes on their heads.
reinforcement of old stereotype: Asians are only good at math and therefore have no reading comprehension to speak of. BTW in the context of your reply to Yonkers, I'd say my response was pretty close.
***Raises Hand*** The last import I bought was 10 years ago, I bought a Hyundai to server as my beater. I have bought nothing but US cars since. 5 of them to be precise. I prefer muscle cars to imports. A V-8 to a 4 banger. My favorite car of all time is a 68 Camaro. My favorite car to drive is my 97 30th anniversary z/28. About the only import sports car I like is the Skyline. My GMC is the smoothest ride youd ever sit in, and at almost 50K I could of bought just about anything else. And Im curious why someone has to be Asian to be offended by stereotypes to Asian people? This is something Ive run into before. I dont look very asian I guess. But do you have to be black to be offended if someone stereotypes a black person?
And thus, my original reply to you. Yonkers asked for an example of an asian man getting the girl at the end of a movie, which I provided. I then asked for an example from asian film with a white leading man, mostly to illustrate that even if asians are not as well represented as some may like, they are more well represented than minorities in other cultures' films. Nowhere did I say that only asian women should appear, nor that a majority of white men desire them.
Don't know if y'all read the "funny cheerleader" thread in the hangout with the girl mimicking Asians in a nail salon (a different version is also on here, http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=38633640). I thought it was funny, but it made me wonder whether it would have been just as acceptable had she mimicked a black person.
I've seen it pulled off. The latest Lisa Lampanelli special on Comedy Central had a lot of jokes thrown at all races. But in general I know most people would be scared to do it. Personally I wouldn't be offended since it is comedy. I give lots more leeway to that.
Your reply was fine. Maybe you wanted more than that? Though not technically a counrty, Hong Kong has had a thriving film industry for quite a while, and at least before it was returned to China, I believe was more than 0.5% white. I don't think there is a large white population in India, which is the other big Asian film powerhouse, so that wouldn't meet your criteria. I don't disagree with these points. Thanks. You just asked for a movie, you didn't say it couldn't be about turning stereotypes on their heads (though I would hesitate to try to impart to much meaning into a movie about two stoners having the munchies and Niel Patrick Harris macking on strippers.)
You're not being honest with youself. We ALL stereotype. It's the individual that makes the difference. When you're not willing to listen to another person, then you become a racist. But don't let anyone tell you that they stand on a pedestal and see everyone equally. Hell. I don't even do that with people I know!
I agree with this post. To an extent all people hold stereotypes but what I thnk matters is how people react and treat each other based on stereotypes. I'm an Asian guy who does martial arts and drives a Honda but then again I play in a band that plays Irish Rebel Music and enjoy debating politics and probably enjoy drinking Guiness more than I should. My ethnicity while important isn't something that is fully determinative of who I am. Also in regard to stereotypes being only held or created by Anglos in Asians especially here in Asia hold many stereotypes about all sorts of people including fellow Asians and themselves. Even though I'm ethnically Chinese but since I am an American and speak with a strong American accent and also don't speak Mandarin that well causes me to be treated by Chinese and other Asians in Asia differently based on stereotypes they have of Americas like they can't eat very spicy food and would rather be eating at McDonalds than local food. Since I'm rambling here a little one stereotype that I find personally annoying is that the only reason I'm a Rox fan is because of Yao Ming. When I was at the T-Wolves game waiting for the Rox to come out of the tunnel some white guys said to me "The Rockets are good team but we know you're only here for Yao." I told them that growing up in Houston I was a Rockets fan long before Yao came along. For that matter I was wearing a Stros' cap and was holding a pic of V-Span I wanted to get signed.
This has been an issue for awhile but I think the situation for Asian males in media has gotten better. ABC news has had an Asian male anchore before and there is a Philipino guy who host Nightline. Chow Yun Fat has lead in a few American Movies including two not involving martial arts. You already mentioned Heroes and Lost but Star Trek, Voyager had a major Asian character who also got a few love interest who weren't Asian (well they were aliens so maybe it doesn't count) also BD Wong has a recurring role on one of the Law and Orders and the Daniel Day Kim also had a recurring role as a CTU agent on 24. So things aren't so bleak for us Asian males as before. If it makes you feel any better I've dated more non-Asians than I have Asians, although I don't think my dad is very happy about that.
