If you've seen it and still cant handle it then it's time to put somebody else in that maybe can handle it when they see it. Maybe even trade for somebody that can handle it. I'm thinking trading for Bitonio who's seen it and has shown he can handle it and putting Fisher at RT would solve a lot of the issues. It really bothers me that Howard who's been in the NFL for 4-5 years still cant figure things out.
They've seen it from other teams, they have practiced for it but they don't know how to react to it in real time. They still have to think before they act. and this could mean one, two, or three, maybe four+ players None of these issues are new. THey have been happening since week 1
Do they not practice against stunts? Weekly or in training camp? Are stunts some radical new defensive concept?
Who is to blame? I'm so sick of this team having a mediocre to bad offensive line. Great teams don't settle for mediocrity. Great teams prioritize protecting their top tier QB with great offensive lines. We haven't had a top 10 offensive line since 2015. Thirteen years ago we were actually #7. I don't know if this team ever had a top 5 offensive line. Different excuses year after year gets old. Maybe it has to do with going from Offensive smart coaches to Defensive June 2011 Offensive Line Rankings #7 Houston Texans GM Rick Smith, Head coach: Gary Kubiak Offensive coordinator: Rick Dennison Starters- LT Duane Brown, LG Wade Smith, C Chris Meyers, RG Antoine Caldwell, RT Eric Winston https://syndication.bleacherreport....-offensive-lines-in-the-nfl-for-2011.amp.html May 2015 Offensive Line Rankings #9 Houston Texans 2014 Run-Blocking rank: 6th 2014 Pass-blocking rank: 11th GM Rick Smith, Head coach Bill O'Brien Offensive coordinator George Godsey Projected Starters: LT Duane Brown, LG Xavier Su’a-Filo, C Ben Jones, RG Brandon Brooks, RT Derek Newton https://www.draftsharks.com/article/2015-offensive-line-rankings July 2016 Offensive Line Rankings #11 Houston Texans https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-entering-the-2016-season Offensive Line Rankings since 2016 AUG 2017 #29 https://thehuddle.com/2017/08/10/offensive-line-rankings/ JAN 2018 #23 https://www.pff.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17 DEC 2019 #20 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season JAN 2021 #23 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2020-offensive-line-rankings JAN 2022 #29 https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/12/seahawks-offensive-line-rankings-week-18-pff/ OCT 2024 #22 https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-nfl-rankings/
Yes! Those were the days of greatness. The late '80s Houston Oilers is ranked #6 All Time Offensive Lines in NFL history. Players: Mike Munchak, Bruce Matthews, Bruce Davis, Dean Steinkuhler, and Jay Pennison Years together: 1987–1991 Game record: 48–31 Accolades: 19 All-Pro selections, 23 Pro Bowl selections, and two Hall of Fame inductions. Houston's group of Mike Munchak, Bruce Matthews, Bruce Davis, Dean Steinkuhler, and Jay Pennsion was special. Their brilliance is lost in the multiple NFC over AFC Super Bowl beatdowns of the late '80s and early '90s. However, during their time as a unit, Oilers quarterback Warren Moon was one of the most well-protected quarterbacks in the league. Featuring two Hall of Famers in guard Mike Munchak and Bruce Mathews, this line was consistently great. Mathews is possibly the most durable player ever in NFL history. He played 19 seasons at every position on the offensive line. Munchak was seen as the ideal run blocker, and Davis, Pennison, and Steinkuler were solid contributors. https://discover.hubpages.com/sports/Top-10-Offensive-Lines
Between Tunsil and Howard, this O Line just exudes "it wasn't me" energy. No accountability, no urgency, and no real desire to get better week to week. They're more interested in CYA than they are in figuring out what the **** is wrong with them. Ultimately it feels like there's no buy-in from them, and maybe even Stroud himself when it comes to the offense, and that's completely on Slowik. The guy simply has no leadership qualities, no ability to adjust, and no creativity to his play calling. CJ is a phenomenal QB, but when your offense is permanently stuck in 3rd and long, there isn't **** you can do against good teams. It's now been 26 games with Slowik as OC, and I can firmly say I'm completely out on him unless something drastically changes with his system. And I'm probably out on Tytus Howard as well while I'm at it.
I would add K Green as a person I am out on. The more Bobby says, "it`s on me" the more we will believe him, this O Line has no DAWGS and as much as I love Tunsil in the pass game, he is no leader and no captain. I hate how he sits out training camp and his cap hit is the highest on the team. Our window with a "cheap QB Salary" is small so this needs to fixed NOW, but I am not sure they can.........hope I am wrong
Heard them on the radio joke about the OLine was “tipping its pitches” because even the success of mixon in the run game, the pass rush still got there and wasn’t phased.. got me thinking, what if however they were coached to stop with the penalties now has them tipping their pitches on the play.. just saying this because I feel like the line has gotten worse while the penalties are fewer haha..
How pathetic that would be from a group of 5 professional linemen that all went high in the draft, and have serious financial backing from this organization. Again, everything is an indictment on Bobby Slowik until rectified, but there has to be some pride shown from the guys up front.
“We’re in a growing period” Spoiler The sacks and pressures have often led to an offense that has often looked rushed and out of sync. “We’ve had multiple weeks where the same things have hurt us multiple times, so we have to get it fixed, starting with the coaches and down to the players of finishing and executing,” coach DeMeco Ryans said Monday. Through the first seven games, the Texans have given up 21 sacks — the fifth-most allowed in the NFL — or an average of three per game. The Texans have particularly struggled away from home in tough road environments. In their three home games, Stroud has been sacked just six times. In their four road games, he’s been sacked 15 times, including four times each against the Colts in Week 1, the Vikings in Week 3 and the Packers in Week 7. The only time the Texans' offensive line has had success on the road was against the one-win Patriots in Week 6. But against the Packers, the Texans were arguably at their worst. “We averaged 2.2 yards per throw,” offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik said. “For us and our standard, we know that’s not good enough.” Many players say it comes down to communication and making sure everyone from the center to the guards and tackles all hear the calls and protections even in loud environments like Minnesota's U.S. Bank Stadium and Green Bay's Lambeau Field. Switching to a silent count has been an issue on the road. In team meetings this week, the coaches and players had some “pretty tough discussions,” Slowik said. Discussions, he says, he wishes to keep private between them. “Honestly, we’ve really been having tough conversations for six weeks because we’re in a growing period,” Slowik told the Chronicle. “That’s what the early NFL season is about.” But the bottom line was that not everyone was on the same page. In private and in public, the players put the onus on themselves to figure it out. What they were putting on film against the Packers wasn’t what was being taught. “It’s tough especially when you see a quarterback getting hit like that, offense underperforming like that,” right tackle Tytus Howard said. “You’ve got to look at yourself in the mirror and see what you can fix. “Obviously, that was one where we were like, ‘Damn, that L was on us.’ We just have to make sure stuff like that doesn’t happen again.” … The Packers ran eight stunts against the Texans, according to a review of the film. Stroud was 0-for-6 and sacked twice when the Packers ran stunts. The Texans' primary focus this week in practice has been trying to defend against stunts. “We’re starting everything a little earlier, making sure we’re looking at the pass rushes and stunts (on film),” said Green, who has been a frequent target of the stunts. “It’s definitely fixable.” Green said keeping Stroud upright has been the top priority. “We want to make sure he’s comfortable back there,” Green said. “When he’s comfortable back there, he leads us to a victory. That’s the main thing. Making sure he’s good. If he’s comfortable, he can throw the ball and do what he can do.” The Texans have a ton invested in their offensive line. Since 2022, they've used one first-round pick and two second-round picks on offensive linemen. Green was a first-round pick in 2022. Center Juice Scruggs was a second-round pick in 2023. And tackle Blake Fisher was a second round pick in 2024. They've awarded $131 million in guaranteed money to their offensive linemen. Only one other team — the Carolina Panthers, who have guaranteed $166 million — has guaranteed more. The Texans are also one of only eight teams to pick at least three offensive linemen in the first three rounds over the last three years. …
When Demeco or Slowik says that it's on them and the coaches, it seems like they’re protecting one or more players from being publicly thrown under the bus. Whether the player deserves it or not they want to keep that in house.
