Can you support both the hard cap and rfa facts you mention? I haven’t read that anywhere. If it’s facts, then that’s why I asked for corrections in my original post. But also the nba trade rules can be complicated so I’m just looking for some evidence.
Ok, I've taken a look at the CBA. We're hard capped at the apron if we SNT JJ. So under no circumstance can we exceed the apron ($125266000 according the the cba (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm section 20). Without having re-signed anyone yet, we're sitting at $77mm salary (via spotrac) but hardcapped after the Philly trade. I had a typo on my last full post. With the EGo/Cap/NG for LBJ trade, the outgoing is $39mm. So, if that trade completes (and we're allowed multiple SNT's in one season), then we're down to $74mm in cap space. We then sign CP3 to a max, which puts us at $115mm (assuming he is eligible for the same max LBJ gets). According to Bima, if we give him a 4 year max, the annual is $39ish so we're sitting at $113mm in that scenario. Is this what you came up with as well? Also, if you have info on the number of SNTs a team can participate in, that would help clarify for me too. Regarding the rfa statement, what do you mean it's a base year comp, and consent by who, Cap or the league? If he signs-and-trades, then he's no longer on a base contract. So, does that mean the new contract is still only half in trade considerations? If so, could you point me in that rules direction?
If you say so. I see nothing wrong with volleying back in response to someone’s uninvited criticism. Or what is it, you start stuff but don’t wanna finish? Are you lil pump?
You see it as criticism, I see it as a different point of view and would gladly counter someones argument on any topic but the minute you go for a personal attack I see I'd be wasting my time so we can leave it at that.
Lol, you took the opposing view in the form of a sarcastic over simplification. If it was simply a neutral, oppossing view, then maybe just state your view instead. Call it personal or whatever, I'm definitely going to back up my POV. Especially with critics that only add sarcasm instead of well thought contributions. I'm happy to start and finish civil, but if you come in with random attitude, don't be surprised if someone snaps back. If you'd like to add your opposing view, feel free. That's what I asked for in my original post.
We will operate above cap and tax. There is no way around it. If you RECEIVE a SNT player you are hard capped at the apron. You can SEND SNT players without activating the hard cap. We will not do an EGo/Cap trade for LBJ. We have more leverage with picks but that deal is just horrible for us. Capela has to consent to a trade and only half of his new salary can be used in the deal. In the CBA look up base year player compensation rules and it will tell you about restricted free agents. Really you should ignore the cap math you are playing out because it doesn't matter. The math matters for the trades and the tax amount. We have to trade Ryno to do something worthwhile or we end up making trades we don't want that are at best lateral moves. Cle is going to rebuild so they don't want to pay EGo and Capela, they want picks. Think team built around lottery pick, Nance, Clarkson, Hood, Osman, more picks. They also need to move out a lot of salary to help with the tax bill.
Ok, I should clarify by asking, would you please provide the wording from the cba so that I can read for myself? The CBA is 598 pages long. Since it sounds like you're versed, I'd imagine it's easy for you to find and provide. So, why do you think EGo/Cap for LBJ is bad for us? I get that Cap may not agree to a SNT, but max numbers are hard to decline. Additionally, if LBJ does want to come to Htown, EGo and Cap are good players in return. CLE has a bad cap situation, but it alleviates quite a bit after 2019-2020 (http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/cap/2019/). EGo's contract would also fall off after that year completes. Given he's only 31 at $14mm annually at that point, his contract isn't a reach. Cap is young and has experienced a huge learning curve and can be an asset to any decently passing PG for years to come.
Any team in the East would love to take Ryan Anderson off Houston's hands that's contending not name the Celtics! By Subtracting Lebron from the East then the road to the finals just got much easier! I see Indiana pulling the trigger on a 3 way with Houston that involves a couple 1st round picks or Gordon with the 3rd team being Sacramento.
Sorry for grunching this thread, but have you not searched and read BimaThug's posts regarding the Rockets' cap situation? That could answer a lot of your questions.
Yea, but what I hope to go down is different from Bima's. He would use EGo and Ryno to CLE so some of the residual issues do not come up for his hypothetical (e.g., max number of SNTs, Caps contract only accounting for half in the trade-in/trade-out calcs, etc). I wish Bima would have covered it.
Article VII, Section 6(j)(4). My bad. I didn't know I had to cover every conceivable misapplication of the salary cap rules.
for clarity: We are only hard-capped until June 30th, 2018. The hard-cap penalty only lasts for one cap season. I seriously doubt Morey will hard-cap the Rockets this year. And if it wasn't clear, you can't even make a SnT if you are over. The way to look at Hard-capping is that there are recently added rules to the NBA that both give non-taxpayers added exception and trade flexibility, and, conversely, prevent teams in tax territory (above the apron) from having all the exceptions and advantages of teams who are not tax payers. Anything in the CBA that Tax teams cannot do become triggers for Hard Cap, so as to prevent a loophole. The loophole: Teams under the apron can't do a trade or signing that only non-taxpaying can do, then exceed the apron after for, say, signing their own FAs. That loophole is what the Hard Cap rules stops. But your hard-cap restriction is removed each June 30th, to give you a clean slate.
Well, that's not what I was trying to say. But I was looking for that so thanks. Now, I get to think of more trades with the new info.
And we would replace Paul with who....? In a D'antoni system the PG is the absolute most important position. Is there any other PG out there with as good as court vision? Also the difference between your business and the NBA... there really is only one half of the season that counts. Best regular season award is not a championship. We just need him to be healthy for playoffs and if that means bubble wrapping him until end of april and may, I am fine with that. He is worth every penny if he helps us get to the promise land.
