Would Pippen have won a championship without Jordan? How many championships would a combination of Robinson and Jordan or O'Neal and Jordan win? More than the Pippen-Jordan combo? I don't think its valid to say Pippen is better than Robinson or O'Neal at the time just because he aided in winning 6 rings
Pippen was a great player in his own right -- and a certain top 10-12 player at his peak (1992-1997 or so). I can't stand the dude, but he was a legitimate NBA star. After Jordan retired the first time (1993-1994), Pippen led the Bulls to a 55-27 record and a conference semi-finals berth. His numbers that year are fantastic: 22 points, 8.7 boards, 5.6 assists and 3 steals. I remember him being a strong MVP candidate that year. He was MVP of the All-star game, if that means anything. It's hard to measure *how* good he was because of Jordan, but he was certainly one of the best all-around players in the league at his peak.
the mid 90s Pippen still a top 5 among these players, equal or better than T-Mac (right now); better than Kidd, Dirk, and Webber.
You point out the years Pippen did not perform well in the clutch, he won 6 titles so he was due some let downs I'd say. Mj didn't win everytime he went into the playoffs and I wouldn't call it choking when he didn't win.
Jordan-Robinson probably a few more. Jordan-O'Neal would probably have won about ten straight before finally succumbing to old age.
I don't think they'd last through ten seasons together those two. Same as Kobe and Shaq, eventually they'd get sick of each other, Jordan will want to have a free path to the bucket without Shaq standing there, and Shaq wants to be the man. However, I think Olajuwan/Jordan would be better, since Olajuwan was way more athletic and wouldn't just stand there and could run with Jordan, and his range would allow Jordan space to get to the bucket as he pleased.
I think Jordan and O'Neal could last because as O'Neal was becoming a true dominant force, Jordan was aging and could probably defer more to the big man - Unlike Bryant, he's already secured his place in NBA history so he doesn't need to get out from anyone's shadow - plus, winning cures everything and that team might never lose.
Odom is a very good all-around player, but does he really excell in any single aspect of the game? Seems like a jack of all trades, master of none type to me. So thats similar to Pippen i guess, but Pippen was a great defender.
I wouldn't go that far. I'm pretty sure a lineup of: Atkins Kobe Odom Grant Vlade would win more games than: Atkins Jordan George Grant Vlade That second team looks suspiciously like the 2003-2004 Magic. Jordan probably could have carried the team to more than 21 wins. But I think even being a playoff contender is a bit of a stretch.
I don't know what Odom had done in Athens to get all the hype. All of a sudden, he is this all-around player that will be better than Pippen according to some peopel here. Didn't he get all that hype when he entered the league a few years back, Didn't people say he got potential to be great back then?
I think this pretty much sums it up. It really is hard to evaluate his career because he played with Jordan in his peak years. Its like trying to evaluate Kobe. Now we will really get to see if Kobe is a franchise player. Pippen put up great numbers, no doubt, but for most of his career he had the luxury of being number two, a role suited perfectly for him.
No, MJ's team still better because MJ will make all his teamates better. while Kobe pissed off his teamates.
is this serious? Pippen was Top 50 all time cmon now... Pippen was able to guard almost anybody on the court...he brought the ball up, he did alot. quit the hate just because he screwed us over. recognize the talent.
Even if Pippen was in his prime, Odom would be better. Odom has always been more talented, just hasnt shown much, with the exception of last year. Odom > Pippen
For all you guys who think this is such a ridiculous comparison, let me put it like this. Lamar Odom was only 24 years old this past season, he averaged 17,9,4. When Scottie was 24 he averaged 16,6,5. Right now their career numbers are about even including a few inept years from Odom when he was really young, and a few inept years from Pippen when he was really old. Odom is only going to improve, he really matured this year in Miami. Those numbers also prove one other thing, even though Pippen was a great second fiddle to Michael Jordan, because he played with MJ he is one of the most overrated players in the history of the NBA. He had about 4 seasons with really eye popping statistics, and there is nothing spectatular about those other seasons. He was a great all-around player, no doubt, but if he had not played with Michael Jordan I really question would this guy be on the 50 greatest list.
it's just ridiculous. Y'all can say whatever you want. It's your right. And, the resentment and hatred that some rockets fans have towards Pippen seriously hidder their brains from working properly.
Honestly, the only argument you guys can make is that we're hating. How is posting actual statistics hating? Make an argument. I really could care less about what the guy did here, I thought it was a desperation move at the time, I never thought it would work out. Plus it was a forgettable lock-out season. So I really could care less.
