that's people for ya. with every smart one there's 15 dumbass ones. Averaging 25-10 in the West obviously isn't good enough for people like rofflesauras. Sure when Yao was drafted, he wasn't as good as Oden, not even close. But he put in the hard work and effort to be where he is, and let's wait and see if Oden can do the same.
this is a very trollish thread and you're guarantee is worth a pile of **** but... t-mac is on a max contract with a chronic back problem so probably for durant yes. though any team already contending would easily rather have t-mac for atleast the next 2-3 years. for instance i highly doubt either portland or seattle would trade their pick for kobe who has no injury problems, is in his prime, and is one of the greatest players to ever play his position. your dismissal of yao is laughable. he's a 7'6" beast about to enter his prime. what do you not understand about that. like t-mac there are some teams that'd prefer yao and some that are far enough away from contending that can wait on an oden to develop.
what championship has yao won? at least oden went to the national championships in his first yr of college. dude, do u watch the game fairly?
im not sure about that now. ppl are making comparisons b/c his size is similar. his first step at age 19 is NOWHERE near tmac. not even close. i dont think he'll avg 27-28 pt or even touch 30. his J is already very good at such a young age but i think he'll be much more perimeter-oriented like tmac right now. but he seems to play with more "fire" than tmac at most times and thats a great thing.
please, u were doing good until u made that comparison. yao eats curry for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
ill say oden will be better than dwight after his rookie yr. dwight has made literally no improvement in his game since his rookie yr. i still see dunks as 90% of his pts.
i dare say that if yao ming in his rookie year went and played in college he would have gotten to the national championships. to say that oden is better than yao is is ludicrous. i cant tell the future; maybe oden will be better in 5 years (although i'm gonna keep to my prediction that he will not be more than a watered down amare with D) , but the truth is that Yao is the most DOMINANT center since shaq and no frosh college player will dethrone him when he has yet to play a minute of nba bball.
i never said oden is better than yao. no way no how. oden is not a top 7-8 big man for 2 yrs to come. but i'm saying is he's already a top 3 DEFENSIVE big man when he steps on the floor. offensively, he still has A LOT of ways to go. but he's 19 so he has time to develop. again, outside of one of the very best players in our league lebron james, no other player in the HISTORY of the NBA has come in with hype like oden dating back to high school, esp. for a big man. there's a reason for that. but right now, only a fool would say oden > yao. i'm saying in 4-5 yrs, he can be one of the top 2-3 big man yes, if not the best. and please, don't compare amare to him. his defense and rebounding alone would put him aboe amare and dhoward in a few yrs.
I agree about the defense part; he is a beast. But i just dont see him ever being any thing more than a dunker who can seal off his man for the occasional jumphook. I know hes young, but i see no vestige of an offensive game; heck, if he wasn't so much more athletic and so much bigger than everyone in college he would have never even gotten close to averaging double figures in college. Maybe im just hating on atheletic people but i feel that fundamentals matter a great deal when it comes to being an offensive player.
Oden already is Dreamlike in many ways.He's what 18,19? Listen Yao will go down as one of the top 5 or 6 centers of all time before it's said and done most likely....I love him and see him already proving it on the court injuries aside. But Oden's upside is even higher.He's a manchild who already possesses something Yao doesn't have and never will....A game changing,overwhelming defensive presence.I would expect his offense to improve due to his great work ethic and natural talent too....A true monster. All that said,if I had to look at Yao and Oden as stocks,I'd buy plenty of Yao due to his established consistency of play in the NBA and the fact that he will be in his prime for awhile as Oden adjusts.
What makes you think Oden will be any better? Oden has zero offensive skills. He's just a dunker right now. And it's no guarantee that Oden will have the work ethic to develop one. Therefore, Oden and Dwight are very simlilar. They are athletic, but they don't have Yao's offensive touch that he had even in his rookie year.
Dude, Michael Jordan didn't win anything until past 30 years. Olajuwon didn't win anything either. Just because Yao did not win the NBA Championship yet doesn't mean he doesn't have a heart of a champion. Look at the guy's work ethic. You can see how much he wants to WIN and DOMINATE by how much sweat, tears, and blood he puts into it. He has a heart of a champion, and I believe he will be a real Champion in a few years.
Oden will give Yao troubles. remember guys like Brand, Kurt Tomas and Okur block Yao consistently! imagine what Oden will do to Yao. Yao will get his points cause he's one of the first 2 options on the team but he's not gonna be effective let alone dominant against Oden like he was in the Utah series. I hope I'm wrong.
Yao is better now than Oden will ever be, and Yao is still getting better. You want defensive presence? How about being the defensive anchor of a top 5 defensive team every year in the league. Oops, scratch that, Yao only led the Rox to top 7 in defense his rookie year, after the team was abysmal on that end the year before. Offensively, Yao is the most complete big man in the game save for Duncan. His post game is unrivaled, he hits turnarounds out to 18 feet, and outside of Dirk, he is the best 7 footer at the line since Jack Sikma was still donning a Blazers jersey. He outperforms his counterparts by 17.9 in PER. To put that in perspective, Stoudemire outperforms his by 7.8 in PER, Duncan 14.9.
I stopped reading after this. What are you talking about? The guy can't even stay on the floor in NCAA games, and he is top 3 in NBA? You must be kidding.
Yao is better than Oden, but when 1 on 1. I forsee Oden giving Yao a lot of problems on the defensive end. We all know how Yao FALTERS when he plays against strong and aggressive defenders.
This is a kinda dumb statement to make. Yao didn't have much problem with the likes of Shaq, Dwight Howard, Amare etc. But he did have problem with Okur. Are you saying Okur is a stronger defender than Dwight Howard and more aggressive defender than Amare? Yao's problem is that his game and moves are too predictable and therefore he can be stopped by a well-designed defensive scheme tailored to stop him.
