Since nonviolence is so powerful, why did NATO send in air-strikes to Libya to promote more violence? Should not we plead them to calm down and go non-violence against Gaddafi? IMO, nonviolence is a propaganda **** laid by someone who loves to rule the sheeps or someone loves to be a sheep.
Libya was a revolution. You are welcome to your opinion about nonviolent protest all you want, but your opinion isn't historical fact. The facts of successful nonviolent protest working based on the very fact that the protests were nonviolent against violent authority figures is documented. India, Civil Rights etc. They are fact and not someone's opinion. You can have have an opinion that nonviolent protest doesn't work, and is put out as propaganda by the authority but your opinion doesn't stack up too well against actual facts.
Dense, are we? Is there a Col. Gaddafi on the UC Davis campus or the slaughtering of students by the police force? Was a guns-blazing revolt needed at UC Davis to start a process where the university and police policy and maybe leadership would be change? No reasonable person says non-violence would have worked in Libya. It would be idiotic to say so. Equally idiotic is to say that violence would have been helpful in the UC Davis situation.
Disagree. I was laughing at them until I saw this. It is outrageous that our govt and authorities would do this to non-violent protesters. I still believe that half their movement is filled with entitlement babies and communists, but the fact is that as a libertarian, I am against the current mix of big business and big govt that is in power. I have more sympathy towards the movement than I did before. If the polizei can do this to unarmed protesters, they can do it to me (except I'm in Texas and we're liable to shoot back). The police overuse of pepper spray and tazers has gone on for too long.
Yeah? When is National I Find Myself At This Set of Random Circumstances At This Point Of The Existence Of The Universe Day .........but I do like the food and weekday football.
What's amazing is how desperate the shills are to discredit OWS. They are literally using every trick in the book to go after them. But it appears that OWS is still going strong, while the corporate controlled media has gone flaccid. Nothing they've done has worked. The reason is simple, of course, as long as the suffering continues, so will the protest.
The reason is there is a new medium outside their control. Almost all public information used to be filtered through the AP, UPI and WSJ or ABC, NBC or CBS. Just 25 years ago, they were the only news aggregators and they had to sell soap. Now people who care can hear every side, every view, every uncovered bit of information unfiltered by the corporate lawyers and PR posturers. It's hard to get away with unethical behavior when everything you do is transparent. (the saving grace of the future)
True, but it can also help spread misinformation sometimes unintentionally, or when people like McDonalds who really know how to get publicity out there can spread it intentional misinformation
The Basso effect? Where corporate interests pay to flood even obscure corners of the public information highway with propaganda and distraction? Even more deadly when AI shills work for them 24/7/365, world wide, in 200 languages; and Anonymous rebels with the same same skills that set them up trying to take them them down. It's going to be an interesting world. But again the ultimate weapon, is truth and transparency. If everyone asks the questions of who is actually behind this, who is actually paying for this and what is their motive? I think people will get pretty savvy pretty quickly.
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionr...esters-occupy-handcuffs-on-occupyblackfriday/ Asshattery by OWS types. Going back to their buy nothing day past.
it's time to shut down the tent cities and make a real effort to make a difference, no? I still don't see the point in stopping the 99% from accessing the subways, parks, etc... OccupyLA given 72 hours to vacate City Hall
NO, every day, as long as anybody is willing to do it. It's the keeping the burr under the saddle, being the squeaky wheel, making news, that keeps the questions asked and answered. Corporate shills will not let up, they will double down and get paid more, and claim that bunch of smelly kids had no message or political purpose. Non-violent civil disobedience is a way of life, not a fad. Or maybe this is a fad, the only way to know is in the rear view mirror, but having seen some in my day, this feels like the start up of a real paradigm change to me. For one, it's worldwide and the people who are striving for real freedom are real serious. Two, it's a new medium of information, much like TV news was for Viet Nam and Civil Rights. Three, the future security of people's children is threatened, a new phenomenon for Americans, they will get serious about that, they just need to figure out who the threat is.
To add to this, they need to look at data protection laws very carefully. There should be more scrutiny of data protection laws, and it should not be easy to protect data that does not have a generic reason for protection.
Why African Americans aren’t embracing Occupy Wall Street http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...all-street/2011/11/16/gIQAwc3FwN_story_1.html There is a Page 2 at the site interesting take. Rocket River
at last, the movement has an anthem. not joan baez, not Nasby & Crosh, but... Spoiler Miley Cyrus Spoiler the thinking progressive's choice. Spoiler <iframe width="1280" height="720" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ovs0fpFgeqw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
PBBDNW But I know to who you are referring. Who do you think will be more relevant when you come before the Death Panel? The dinosaurs they don't remember or the heroes of their youth?
Like the internet she was created by the corporatati to sell crap to the masses but she became self aware and escaped to turn against them.
