I am not talking about the tenets of the ideologies, I am talking about the results. The body counts. You tell me - somewhere in the neighborhood of 17 million dead on one side of the scale, and well over a hundred million dead on the other side. Which side has done more evil?
If the results don't come from the tenants then we should be placing the blame on the people who caused the evils. If they tenants do result in the evils then it is fair to place the blame on the ideology.
"It's because for years we were fed false propaganda of how bad communism and communists were, only to discover later that the exaggerations were huge, and it wasn't the supposed threat we told it was" Ah yes. Communism isn't evil. America is evil. It needs change and hope. It needs hope and change. A new direction. I remember reading false propaganda like Animal Farm in class too. I remember the Catholic church condemning Communism. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04179a.htm But it doesn't matter. The weak cling to religion and guns. We need change and hope. Keep on coming out of the commie closet. The day is here at last.
This thread is classic, but this picture makes it all the better. It turns out that it's a bumper sticker, and one is going on my car.
"The only good commie, is a dead commie." Nero & ilovestrippers Thanks for keeping our precious bodily fluids pure from commie contamination. All of us still living in 1962 salute you.
So.... which one was worse? Nazi-ism was essentially a cult, less about ideology than nationalism and racial 'purity'. It was self-centered and isolationist in nature, conquering, yes, but originally only interested in 're-taking' lands that they believed they had prior claim to. It was very 'old-fashioned' in its structure and hierarchy. What ideology there was was based upon all 'aryans' being made to feel 'superior' to all other races, and in such fervor, being willing either to accept or ignore the atrocities committed against other human beings by their fascist regime. In comparison, communism is not racial, and not nationalistic. 'The State' is non-specific, and, much like radical islam today, cannot peacefully co-exist with other ideologies. Anyone who disagreed with the dictates of communism, who wanted to leave it, was considered 'defective', and sent away for 're-education' (translation: starved to death in siberia). Communism is soulless, does not value any individual, and is inherently stagnant. It is bleakness, hell on earth, and futureless. Both evil, no question about it. But as to the question of ideologies, just have a look at any of the 'elite' college campuses today. You will find insulated enclaves of socialists, and active ANSWER chapters happily encouraged by radical faculty. It is so common as to be laughable. But you don't find anyone sipping their lattes while gushingly glowing over the notions of the Aryan Master Race.. Nazi-ism is dead, but not forgotten. Communism is still very much alive and kicking, in its death-throes yes, thankfully, but still very dangerous, because the poison it spreads is not properly being countered by an educational system that has become an actual refuge of radical socialist indoctrination. That is all a bit beside the point though. Seriously, what do you think? 17 million dead? Over 100 million dead? Which one was worse?
or maybe it's simply human nature to divide and conquer. no, wait... it's infinitely more convenient to categorize and label so that we can seperate the bad guys from the good guys.
It's a false choice. Fascism and Communism are so closely related that when compared to capitalism, they are virtually indistinguishable.
If I had to choose? Choose what? Which one was worse? There is no choice, communism has killed many more people than the nazis did. Both of them are pure evil on an unimaginable scale. Again, the original point was simply that the nazis are viewed by history as 'the worst evil', and I am simply pointing out that communism is even worse, and how odd it is that so many people seem to be oblivious to that fact.
So in your enlightened opinion, compared to Commies, the Nazis are not so bad. Would they rank higher or lower than the Khmer Rouge?
All political systems that deny individuality are evil, and show their fruits within time. This argument of whether Hitler or Mao or Stalin was more evil is silly, and unproductive. I don't know who was more evil, but I know that all were worse than Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. Perhaps a better question is how evil we consider well-meaning global socialists like Wilson and Hoover, whose actions led to incredible suffering and a world war.
Heheh enjoy playing your little game of trying to twist words around, because you are playing it by yourself.
