I think the outrage is about the lack of insistence on a level playing field. Had any other candidate said such a thing and switched the race in the story, s/he would have been unilaterally slaughtered in the media.
So, how do you propose one talks about race as a national issue if you get slammed every time you make even the most benign of generalizations? That's the real problem here. Clinton and McCain don't want to talk about race, they just want Obama to hang himself. It's like a tar pit. The harder Obama fights to argue that race is a real issue, the more he opens himself up to attacks and sound bites that take his answers out of context and try to paint him as a racist. If the cynicism and ugliness of this tactic by the media and the campaigns doesn't disturb you, I don't know what will.
I would suggest that race should not be an issue. Every person should be treated equal under the law. Given that, government has no business even mentioning the race of a person.
Do you realize that there are currently parts of the South where school districts are STILL under scrutiny by the Justice Department because of segregation cases that stretch all the way back to Brown v. Board of Education? So much for should be equal.
If there are schools under investigation by the justice department for treating people differently based on their race, then that means the law (especially federal law, which is what is relevant to presidential elections) IS treating everyone equally in such a case, it is the local schools that are not. That only serves to reinforce my point. In fact, since oh the passing of the civil rights act or so, there has not been a single law on the federal books that demands substandard treatment of black people. Furthermore, de facto segregation (as opposed to de jure segregation) is not contrary to everyone being treated the same under the law, and in fact de jure desegregation would in many cases require that people receive different treatment (e.g. busing) under the law based solely on their skin color.
What I find outrageous is that Obama basically called his grandma a racist AGAIN by referring her to a typical white person. When will he just STFU about this and leave his typical grandma out of this typical political primary.
Openly and frankly and without the PC police. My "complaint" was about the lack of a level playing field. I understood completely what Obama said. It didn't make me hysterical on it's own merit. How is Obama arguing that race is a "real issue?" The irony is that Obama, given his mixed-race background, should be a "safe" black candidate. After all, he is half-white!!!!!! It's a sad system and it's a sleeping watchman that snoozes through the night.
Wow. This seems to me to be more racist than Obama's remark. Twice as funny when followed by: Signed, A White Guy
Except that recent polls are showing this issue has traction and that Obama's support among independents has been eroded. I've said this before but I think Obama supporters have often gotten too caught up in the idea that everything is different for their candidate but the unfortunate truth is that it isn't and that he is subject to the same scrutiny and negative attacks as any other candidate with the same potential for those to have traction against him. At the same time in the past several weeks many Obama supporters have also seem to taken on the air that their candidate's victory is inevitable. Frankly that is far from the case and its been a disservice to the Obama campaign to adopt that attitude. I'll add I'm not saying this is right but merely wishing for politics to change aint gonna make it so.
I might have drunk the Obama Kool Aid, but his victory is far from certain. I do welcome credible challenges to his presidency because he is mostly unproven to the eyes of the American people. Doesn't mean I won't disagree about the tactics employed against him.
Things seem worse than they are right now, because Obama is being attacked by both sides (Clinton and McCain) and little attention is being put on the other candidates. Maybe this changes with Clinton's Bosnia gaffe. So, the polls don't really matter right now. When Obama seals up the nomination, both sides will begin the true debate. As far as acting like the nomination is inevitable, that's the best argument the Obama camp has right now. Go do the math. It's virtually impossible for Hillary to make up the current gap in delegates or popular vote. She's been on her last leg since Super Tuesday. Her only chance of winning is uncovering a huge scandal that causes the super-delegates to get behind her, which is exactly what it will take for the supers to ignore the popular vote and delegate counts and vote for her. If we were talking about any candidate other than a Clinton, they would have quit by now.
Perhaps. But the Obama supporters seem to be acting as though winning the general election is a foregone conclusion. Anybody who thinks it is a foregone conclusion is either: 1. lying; 2. fooling themselves; or 3. not very bright. Obama may well win the general election. All I am saying is that it is far from a foregone conclusion.
Hopefully you've pissed that kool-aid out already, like what it sounds like most independent voters are doing... HO HO HO
wow...just watching lou dobbs talking about this subject.. dobbs " I believe 99.5 percent of america is not racist"
Candidates facing problems always say "the polls don't really matter." I wouldn't be quite so sanguine regarding the polls. There is one big problem though in that analysis which is that Obama cannot win the nomination outright either during the primary season. Under the Democratic party rules in that case it goes to the convention where almost anything goes.
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