Remember, children sometime purposely act out just to get attention. So, what is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
Sizzle Chest, What are your thoughts about Obama belonging to the Church that insults the white race, Jews, and blames America for 9-11? Is that fair to people? With everything Jews have gone through in this world, how do you feel about Obama's self-professed spiritual mentor giving an award to Louis Farrakhan? How do you feel about Obama honoring this man through 20 years of 'worship' at his 'church'? Wright has played a central role in Obama's life, and that troubles me greatly. Does it trouble you to associate with anti-semitism, racism, and bigotry?
a uniter, not a divider [rquoter] According to a new poll by InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion, 82% knew about the controversy surrounding Barack Obama’s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Obama’s speech about race in America. Of those who knew about the controversy and the speech, 52% said it made them less likely to vote for him. Moreover, 56% of blacks said the speech made them less likely to vote for him. So Obama is bringing Americans together in a dislike of his speech, though I suspect that shared dislike does not represent much bridging of racial differences. Obama gave a speech focusing on race as a way to distract from the issue of religion, but the focus on race does not seem to have played well with blacks or non-blacks. [/rquoter]
That is a "when did you stop beating your favorite dancer at the gentleman's club" type of question. No thanks. My thoughts? If we look at 3% of the statements of a person chosen at random (a non-politician), you will find some stuff that doesn't look good on the nightly news. So Obama made a (long, sustained) choice here. He decided that the good of Wright outweighed the occasional bad. The things you list are clearly not the only things Wright is about, and clearly, like any of your favorite talk-shown hosts, a preacher must entertain, and the rhetoric gets more hyperbolic at times, kind of like your posts. Do they have a printed mission statement against America? Against Jews? Yeah, I thought not. So don't quote a couple of hyperbolic sermons and make it the mission of the church. Anyway, Obama decided, (as he said in the most open and honest political speech I've heard in my 39 years), to maintain his connection to that church for all the great good that it does. What he did not say, as others have mentioned, is that there was a political element to his decision. I'm confident of that. How far would he get, as a politician, as a mixed-race Ivy-league guy, without some strong community and Christian connections. He perhaps could have found a more "squeaky clean" church... I dunno... like the one I grew up in. Milquetoast Methodist* sort of thing, crushing the spirit of everyone in church... it's largely why I don't go to church today. Even the singing was slow and horrible. That's another story. I don't think the association with Wright has influenced Obama's thoughts on Jews, 9-11, or what-have-you. I do believe Obama's a Christian, and he's been very consistent, action-wise and policy-wise, in his adherence to Christ's message. That's my view of it. I think this is all sound and fury. What if his nanny believed in Astrology? "Obama let his kids live with an anti-science freak!" I wouldn't care about that either. It does little to reflect on him, beyond underlining that he's not as obsessed with being perfectly melba-toast squeaky-clean to get elected. Clearly, the association delights you, and that's okay. You are very consistent, at least. * = for the record, I do not mean to suggest that all Methodist congregations were lame and spiritless like mine was. This was just one church.
If Edwards would have said "typical black person" in any context he would have been destroyed. I find the responses of "haha he will win anyways" pretty telling.
The racist is the guy who summarily ignores hard evidence provided to him. You can see for yourself that the Harvard implicit bias study shows that a vast majority of white people (75%-ish) show some level of bias against black people. So how is the statement "typical white person harbors some racist feelings" not true, exactly? TJ, have you no retort for the very salient numbers I brought up? Telling that there is no defense from the McCain camp when facts and numbers are brought into play. Very telling... ...and it's just so much better that McCain's spiritual adviser thinks America exists solely to destroy Islam. Because clearly, all Muslims are evil due to the actions of a few extremists... just like all Christians are evil because of the KKK.
Because racism is about generalizing people, and even if numbers are on your side if you make broad statements about people because of their race, it is a racist statement. signed
...and where exactly are the numbers for that? Are over 50% of black teen mothers unmarried? If so, then I have no problem with it. It's not racism if it's a scientifically verifiable fact.
96.1% Sorry but I guess we disagree. I think the whole issue is the use of the word "typical". It just has bad connotations. Your test of over 50% is kinda weak also. Just because over 50% of a race has a characteristic it is OK to typify everyone in the race?
Great, then I have no problem with that statement. According to that Harvard study and John Dovidio's studies (Yale and Colgate, I believe), we're talking 75% here. Three-quarters. I'd say that justifies the use of the word "typical." I agree with you on the use of the word "typical" probably being too extreme if we're talking about 51% (in that case, I would say "the majority of black teen mothers..." or "the majority of white people..."). However, as far as I'm concerned, it's perfectly okay to say "typical" when we're talking about 75%... and that IS what we're talking about.
No, you cannot. As I have already stated many, many, many, many, many times, I'm on the fence between McCain and Obama. I'm just fairly sensitized to racial issues, as a white guy who moved from Sacramento in his youth and who now lives and works in Milwaukee, one of the most segregated cities in America along with Detroit. Seeing the kind of behavior I've seen around here did a lot to change my views on these issues.
That makes no sense. Congratulations. You've submitted to obnoxious, baseless repetition of the word "typical" in place of rational argument and discussion. Welcome to Kindergarten. Try not to drop any crayons in my coffee.
As I already stated, we're talking about 75% here, not 51% or 52%. 75% is a big number. I personally am okay with the word "typical" when we're talking 75% (but not when we're talking about 50-some percent). If you think we need to hit 80% or 90% in order to say "typical," then fine. Good for you. I simply disagree. 75% is very high as far as I'm concerned. You act downright shocked that I'm not offended by that statement about black teen mothers. I'm just not. Clearly it's a fact. What kind of world is it where we are not allowed to make generalizations based on FACTS? I'm fine with broad generalizations of a race when they are supported by FACTS, AND if people always keep in mind that there are exceptions to every rule and try to treat people as individuals.
you do it all the time the irony of your post idiot, if you're just asking what black posters think and accusing of riots obviously you think we're typical dumbass
Well I am fed up with Obamas crap. I am not voting for the flipflopper McCain either. Nor Hillaroid. Bush! 4 More Yeears!
It's not a slur. It is a generalization, and in that respect perhaps it isn't "politically correct", but what he said is absolutely sensible. And he wasn't attacking his grandmother or anyone else for it; he said it was natural for someone with certain experiences bred into them to have such an emotional reaction. It is no less a slur than someone claiming a typical black person tends to be less comfortable in a room full of white people than a mixed room.
