Obama's Speech in Response to the Wright Controversy

Same here. Have a nice day.

 

I like Obama better than McCain.

 

I edited the last post because I am stupidly continuing this thread. I guess I am chatty this morning. Take a look.

 

That's a good thing, for sure.

From the perspective of one who comes from faith...it's infuriating to me that a CHURCH moved you further from knowing God. I find this happens with great frequency.

 

The nutty remarks should have excluded Wright from being considered for the Spirtual Advisory Committee. That was reallllllllly poor judgement especially considering Obama's claims of being able to unite the country.

 

I'd like to think it liberating. god (if she exists) should be independent of human social constructs. I think corruption is unavoidable. Not that I'm better or anything because of my lack of affiliation - no doubt the above parentheses should make that quite clear.

 

Fair point...I think God can be celebrated and honored in all constructs. I believe you do that without knowing you're doing it.

 

That's a better argument than claiming that Obama's appeals and emphasis on unity are utterly without merit due to Wright. I agree with the above statement.

Thanks.

 

But do you allow such people to play as big as a role in your life as Obama? This story has legs mainly because of this. Casual association wouldn't make this a big story.

Most criminals also had understandable reasons for their crimes. But that doesn't mean they can avoid punishments.

 

What I look for in a Pastor is someone who will continually stretch and challenge my beliefs -- not someone who will dictate or force beliefs on me. If I disagree with things my Pastor says but in considering them either challenge or strengthen my own (even opposite) beliefs I would continue to listen to him.

I thought his speech was brave and brilliant.

 

Hard to say. Some of the people I mentioned are in my family. Do they play a big role? I guess - but that's distinct from saying I embrace what they think or that I agree with everything they say. That's the point. It's not about the degree of relation he had with Wright - it's what he took away from the man. I happen to think Obama is not a bitter racist. I'd say his actions and commentary supports that assertion. People who blindly confuse the two or even equate association with agreement or acceptance are completely ignoring Obama's own history, and the statements he made in the speech. More importantly, they are intentionally contorting the situation, shoehorning Obama into a set of "presidential requirements" that are wholly impossible for any human. That, to me, is a sad commentary on the political motivations of those demonizing Obama over this.

Wright was removed.

 

You don't have a choice for family member. But you certainly have a choice for your pastor. We judge people by the choices they made.

I don't understand why so many people try to compare family member with Wright. They are never the same. Even Obama made this mistake.

 

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Thursday, March 20, 2008
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows John McCain’s lead growing against both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49% to 42% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% margin (see recent daily results). African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55% in the general election match-up.

So much for OBAMA uniting people. Obama has made this black vs white within the Democratic party.

 

Of course you have a choice. I can ignore zany things said by my family members while still interacting with them. I could even stop talking with them. There is no "family-sacrosanct" rule or anything.

Preposterous. Many people make surrogate family members of all sorts of people, especially in a "broken" home like Obama's.

 

Surrogate members like gang members, KKK Klansmen, Aryan brotherhoods?

 

Yeah, he's the one that made it a black and white issue.

He made it that when he won the over 90% white Idaho, WY, Utah, the Dakotas, etc.

So much for people not forming their own conclusions they want to have prematurely and regardless of actual facts.

 

Yeah, like the fact that Obama put a racially divisive minister on a Spirtual Advisory Committee only to yank him off the committee when the truth came out about Wright. The truth that Obama knew for 2 decades.

 

That was BEFORE the white people KNEW anything about him. Why don't they poll those people AGAIN after finding out about this. I bet the race would be much different today than it was back then.

The ACTUAL facts are now OUT about Obama. That is why you are seeing his lead deteriorating. The people that were premature are those 90% white people in those states.

 

I think the bottom line is that people who have seen five minutes of a man's life and decide they know better what the whole person is about than people who have actually known the man for years, and many different facets of that person for decades, just shows how easy it is for some people to be close minded here.

It is a real problem in this nation.

 

Yes, that was one polling period. It is premature to make any blanket statements and write people off based on polls that happen fresh off a bad news cycle. Back in December when polls showed Hillary with double digit leads everywhere, using the logic your using now, we might as well have told all the other candidates including Obama to just give up, and they can't be successful, because look at what the polls say.

Obviously things change, and people get different perspectives.