I didn't miss it, texxy. He didn't put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. And?? I don't either and neither did anyone I knew growing up. Another non-story. Good news though! I'm supporting your boy Mitt in Michigan! See new thread. We finally agree on something -- nominating the worst possible GOP candidate so Obama can cruise to victory!
Honestly I dont believe it because sooner or later the media would have jumped all on this. Hell do yall remember the NBA player who was Muslim and didnt salute. It was all on the media at the time and he wasnt anybody special. Your picture I feel a bit suspect about but I until it can be proven false that is very interesting. I will keep an eye out for that. I'd like to know from his mouth if so why. One day Big Texx I want to sit down with you and discuss politics and race. i believe that would be a hell of a discussion.
The media did jump all over it a couple of months back when it happened. You want to sit down with me? A private audience with bigtexxx? Perhaps we could put something together with yourself and other liberals on the board. Perhaps.
Naw man just me and you discussing this. People get to wrapped up in Liberal and Conservative and Republican and Democrat. Its all most a religion. Would you honestly be open to converse and dialogue with a person whose views differ from yours?
Certainly I'd be open to it. We shall discuss this private audience request in more detail as I learn more about you. How should I trust a rookie such as yourself? How do I know you're not looking to off me? I may request my legal counsel to be present (Samf, still looking for work?).
In my experiences, this seems to hold true. I was shocked and appalled when a man who I previously worked with was discussing his church. He told me that these college-aged women brought a black friend to the Sunday services. When this group of friends took their seat they were asked to leave. I was also invited, along with several others, to play basketball with a church group one time. The black people were playing at one end and the whites at the other. When we (blacks) tried to go and play with the whites they told us we could not and to stay at the other end of the court.
Wow! To have a thread that from the original post all the way through that couldn't find anything to attack Obama with speaks highly of him. If his opponents have to make up a bunch of stuff that isn't true at all I can only think it means because they don't have any real issues to attack him with. I'm amazed.
I made an erronious statement earlier but I'd just assume the candidates stick with what they do and run on that. Dont throw the other guy under the bus. Make yourself look good, but not at the expense of the other guy.
that is so logical. a collective white guilt has fallen over america this election year. you're so right. I have now figured it out. because we all know a black man can't be president on merrit. given your post history about how you believed black students didn't deserve to be at rice, or how your mom didn't like her fellow black teachers, the scary thing is, I know you believe that. why don't you just call him the affirmative action president, i know you want to, and that's what you're thinking
He doesn't deserve it based on merit. Not even close. It's comical that the guy is even running, given what he's accomplished (or lack thereof). I never said blacks didn't belong at Rice. That's garbage and you made it up in an attempt to smear me. I'll be the bigger man and ignore your lie there.
I agree. I'd rather have someone with much more experience. I mean, someone likes James Buchanon could never lead the country astray with his resume: Pennsylvania House of Representatives - 6 years US House of Representatives - 10 years Ambassador to Russia - 2 years US Senate - 11 years US Secretary of State - 4 years He only led the US to the brink of Civil War, but just look at all that experience - he must have been awesome! Experience is not a replacement for sound judgment & analytical ability, and historically, there is zero corollation between experience and success of a Presidency.
Perhaps long-standing time in congress isn't the end all, be all of what matters most, but many voters like to see a history of success in a candidate. What the hell has B Hussein Obama done? I'd love to know. TIA
He's accomplished quite a bit. While in the legislature in Illinois he worked with both Republicans, and within his own party to enact welfare reform, tax credits for low income earners, health care and ethics reform. Obama helped lead the legislation requiring interrogations of murder suspects to be video-taped, passed legislation requiring officers to record the race of people arrested to monitor racial profiling. In addition he has been endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police. As a member of the Senate he holds positions on the Senate committee of foreign relations, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and Veterans' Affairs. He's helped make the nation safer by leading Senate's drive for improved border security and immigration reform. Here is some more. All you had to do was look on the internet. This is accurate, and I challenge you to find anything in it that isn't. That's quite a list of accomplishments already at such a relatively young age. I like Obama's experience, and the judgement that it shows. You may disagree with some of the politics but to sit here and continue to act like he hasn't accomplished anything would only further show your ignorance.
First off, I can't believe I read your post (since you permanently reside on my ignore list), but I did. Your post is garbage. Those accomplishments are chicken ****. Oooh, he thought to video-tape murder suspects!???!??? Wow, that is so genius. Let's elect him president! Yeah! The guy hasn't done squat.
I don't understand why anyone bothers making rational, serious points to li'l t, tj, or basso. They're one big ball of delusion, intellectuall dishonesty, and bad faith all rolled into one. The appropriate response to just about anything they post is ridicule and laughter.
that's for the people to decide. this guy has to compete in the same process everyone else does, so your claims of him getting by on his race/charisma are baseless
The Fraternal Brotherhood of Police beg to differ. I guess you don't support our law enforcement the same way you don't support our troops. Border security and immigration reform aren't squat? Protection of human rights isn't squat? welfare reform isn't squat? Wow, you have a strange criteria about what isn't important to this nation. I think what this exposes isn't lack of accomplishment, but your own inability to recognize important issues.
I'd agree with that - voters like to see it when voting. The problem is that there's no real correlation of that history of success and the quality of a president. Abraham Lincoln, who followed the highly experienced James Buchanon, was pretty much a failure. He spent some time in the Illinois State Legislature and had 1 term in the US House. He didn't run for reelection to the House because he was unpopular due to his anti-war stance against he Mexican-American war. That was the entirety of his political experience - I think most people think he made a fairly good President. Ultimately, people can complain about a lack of experience, but the reality is that it just doesn't correlate historically in any meaningful way. The way we remember Presidents is essentially a combination of the circumstances they are placed in and their judgment and ability to make right decisions in those circumstances. Neither has much to do with experience, though.
